[DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De Anza Autocross)

[msm at portata.com]

FWIW, I run 450/750 springs with 7/8" solid bar, sphere joints, and three-way shocks.  It's the fastest Pantera on blocks.


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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of Kirby Schrader
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:35 AM
To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com; Mike Trusty
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De Anza Autocross)

Bob,

I would like to thank you VERY much, sir. I now feel vindicated!
:-)

After more than 12 years of saying that stiffer springs and 1" sway bars front and rear made my car handle much better and very neutral and then being told there was no way that would work and I was wrong, I'm glad to hear someone else is stating the same thing.

Congratulations!

Couldn't resist commenting,
Kirby

(can't watch YouTube at work though..., I'll watch tonight at home)


On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:19, <RCBSONS1 at aol.com> wrote:

> I was all set to run the Firebird at this years 41st De Anza Autocross 
> It is a fund raiser for the Auto Tech Department and also lets the 
> kids tech your cars and run their project cars
>
> The Firebird has issues so I decided to run the Pantera Needed to drop 
> the oil- Penn Brand now... so I did that on Saturday and also changed 
> the collector gaskets as I think it was causing an off idle stumble
>
> Sunday morning it is sprinkling and by the time I decide to go it is 
> really raining.. so much for cleaning up the car the night before... 
> halfway there the car starts to stumble I almost turned around.. 
> decided to go to do tech etc and then look at the car.. the collector 
> gaskets- Alum were leaking all over.. did not compress like the others
>
> Called Rich my Pantera buddy and another set of gaskets would be 
> coming.. we changed them in the rain and a little hail.. great day for 
> an autocross... fired the car up and the stumble was gone....let it 
> cool and retorqued
>
> I found a window in between showers and get in line then it starts to 
> sprinkle again then rain.. but by the time I run it is sunny and 
> dry... car ran good.. driver a little rusty as it has been five years 
> since autocrossing
>
> Ran the car in Vintage group with 22 cars.. second place not a first 
> but not bad.. one of my buddies told me a long time ago to put those 
> seconds and third place trophies in a drawer Car pushed real bad the 
> last time I ran with softer springs and lighter bars but is now 
> neutral with the 550/750 springs and 1" bars on both ends..yes I had 
> the rear bar on it and it works Got beat by a 911 Porch or Porshe
>
> At awards ceremony my buddy Dennis states how I send my registration 
> in every year and say I am bringing the Firebird and then when I 
> actually show up I bring the Pantera then he says is there anybody 
> here who did not know which car was the Pantera.. gotta love those 180 
> headers The De Anza guy passed by me and says its kinda loud but then 
> thanks me for bringing the car Earlier the kid at registration asks 
> what car I am running and I say Pantera and he states not that nasty 
> black one with the wing that ran a few years back... I say yea... 
> thats the one
>
> Car did well and was well received and thankfully did not have that 
> stumble it was doing earlier..I thanked Joe at Custom Alignment for 
> letting me put the car in his booth and he says it always has a crowd 
> around it.. some know the Pantera and others ask  Thanks to my car 
> buddies for helping out and giving support As always I talked  to a 
> few Pantera owners with cars not running and few about the Pantera in 
> the Fast 5 movie
>
> Great day for the Detomaso name and a lot of fun.. better than my 
> Saturday drive....
> curbing two Kinesis wheels getting on the throttle in the wrong place
>
> Bob Benson #3 Black Pantera
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