[DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: DeAnzaAutocross)
L GRAY
tipo874a at msn.com
Tue May 17 11:22:06 EDT 2011
...... I stand humbled by your inventiveness !
Les ( NO air bag ) Gray
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: DeAnzaAutocross)
Hmmm could be Les, but it does have an air bag on it. Blow it up the right way and you are good to go!
I do like the ride it gives you.
Larry (as sick as you) J
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: DeAnzaAutocross)
.............................maybe your "shock" wasn't up to the dampening job!!! I'm just sayin' . . . . . . . . . .
Les ( heavy duty shock) Gray
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<<too soft in the rear>>
I dated a girl like that once...
Larry (never soft) - Cleveland
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De
AnzaAutocross)
Julian Kift skrev 2011-05-16 23.11:
>
> I am using the 1" bars with sphere ball ends, slightly lighter springs
than Bob at 450/550#, works well on the GT5.
What is stock on a GT5 (1984)?
My car is too soft in the rear, even for highway cruising.
Thomas
>
> I have seen a couple of the hollow bars snapped in two where the float
washer is welded on, which maybe be more to do with the welding process than
the hollow bar.
>
> Julian
>
>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:45:06 -0500
>> From: kirby.schrader at gmail.com<mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
>> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De Anza
Autocross)
>>
>> I am using solid bars, Ken.
>>
>> Kirby
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 13:43, Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you guys using solid or hollow 1 inch bars?
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 5/16/11, Kirby Schrader<kirby.schrader at gmail.com<mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com>>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Kirby Schrader<kirby.schrader at gmail.com<mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com>>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De Anza
>>> Autocross)
>>> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com<mailto:RCBSONS1 at aol.com>, "Mike Trusty"<miketrusty at msn.com<mailto:miketrusty at msn.com>>
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Date: Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:35 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> I would like to thank you VERY much, sir. I now feel vindicated!
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> After more than 12 years of saying that stiffer springs and 1" sway bars
>>> front and rear made my car handle much better and very neutral and then
>>> being told there was no way that would work and I was wrong, I'm glad to
>>> hear someone else is stating the same thing.
>>>
>>> Congratulations!
>>>
>>> Couldn't resist commenting,
>>> Kirby
>>>
>>> (can't watch YouTube at work though..., I'll watch tonight at home)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at
11:19,<RCBSONS1 at aol.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=RCBSONS<mailto:RCBSONS1@aol.com%3chttp://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=RCBSONS>
1 at aol.com<mailto:1 at aol.com>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was all set to run the Firebird at this years 41st De Anza Autocross
>>>> It is a fund raiser for the Auto Tech Department and also lets the kids
>>>> tech your cars and run their project cars
>>>>
>>>> The Firebird has issues so I decided to run the Pantera
>>>> Needed to drop the oil- Penn Brand now... so I did that on Saturday
>>>> and also changed the collector gaskets as I think it
>>>> was causing an off idle stumble
>>>>
>>>> Sunday morning it is sprinkling and by the time I decide
>>>> to go it is really raining.. so much for cleaning up the car
>>>> the night before... halfway there the car starts to stumble
>>>> I almost turned around.. decided to go to do tech etc
>>>> and then look at the car.. the collector gaskets- Alum were
>>>> leaking all over.. did not compress like the others
>>>>
>>>> Called Rich my Pantera buddy and another set of gaskets
>>>> would be coming.. we changed them in the rain and a little
>>>> hail.. great day for an autocross... fired the car up and the stumble
>>>> was gone....let it cool and retorqued
>>>>
>>>> I found a window in between showers and get in line
>>>> then it starts to sprinkle again then rain.. but by the time
>>>> I run it is sunny and dry... car ran good.. driver a little rusty
>>>> as it has been five years since autocrossing
>>>>
>>>> Ran the car in Vintage group with 22 cars.. second place not a first
>>>> but not bad.. one of my buddies told me a long time ago
>>>> to put those seconds and third place trophies in a drawer
>>>> Car pushed real bad the last time I ran with softer springs
>>>> and lighter bars but is now neutral with the 550/750 springs
>>>> and 1" bars on both ends..yes I had the rear bar on it and it works
>>>> Got beat by a 911 Porch or Porshe
>>>>
>>>> At awards ceremony my buddy Dennis states how I send my
>>>> registration in every year and say I am bringing the Firebird and
>>>> then when I actually show up I bring the Pantera
>>>> then he says is there anybody here who did not know which
>>>> car was the Pantera.. gotta love those 180 headers
>>>> The De Anza guy passed by me and says its kinda loud
>>>> but then thanks me for bringing the car
>>>> Earlier the kid at registration asks what car I am running and I say
>>>> Pantera and he states not that nasty black one with the wing
>>>> that ran a few years back... I say yea... thats the one
>>>>
>>>> Car did well and was well received and thankfully did not have
>>>> that stumble it was doing earlier..I thanked Joe at Custom Alignment
>>>> for letting me put the car in his booth and he says it always has
>>>> a crowd around it.. some know the Pantera and others ask
>>>> Thanks to my car buddies for helping out and giving support
>>>> As always I talked to a few Pantera owners with cars not running
>>>> and few about the Pantera in the Fast 5 movie
>>>>
>>>> Great day for the Detomaso name and a lot of fun.. better than my
>>> Saturday
>>>> drive....
>>>> curbing two Kinesis wheels getting on the throttle in the wrong place
>>>>
>>>> Bob Benson #3 Black Pantera
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