[DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De Anza Autocross)

Kirby Schrader kirby.schrader at gmail.com
Mon May 16 14:45:06 EDT 2011


I am using solid bars, Ken.

Kirby

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 13:43, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Are you guys using solid or hollow 1 inch bars?
>
> Ken
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/16/11, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Stiff springs and 1" sway bars! (was Re: De Anza
> Autocross)
> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com, "Mike Trusty" <miketrusty at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Monday, May 16, 2011, 11:35 AM
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I would like to thank you VERY much, sir. I now feel vindicated!
> :-)
>
> After more than 12 years of saying that stiffer springs and 1" sway bars
> front and rear made my car handle much better and very neutral and then
> being told there was no way that would work and I was wrong, I'm glad to
> hear someone else is stating the same thing.
>
> Congratulations!
>
> Couldn't resist commenting,
> Kirby
>
> (can't watch YouTube at work though..., I'll watch tonight at home)
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:19, <RCBSONS1 at aol.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=RCBSONS1@aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I was all set to run the Firebird at this years 41st De Anza Autocross
> > It is a fund raiser for the Auto Tech Department and also lets the kids
> > tech your cars and run their project cars
> >
> > The Firebird has issues so I decided to run the Pantera
> > Needed to drop the oil- Penn Brand now... so I did that on Saturday
> > and also changed the collector gaskets as I think it
> > was causing an off idle stumble
> >
> > Sunday morning it is sprinkling and by the time I decide
> > to go it is really raining.. so much for cleaning up the car
> > the night before... halfway there the car starts to stumble
> > I almost turned around.. decided to go to do tech etc
> > and then look at the car.. the collector gaskets- Alum were
> > leaking all over.. did not compress like the others
> >
> > Called Rich my Pantera buddy and another set of gaskets
> > would be coming.. we changed them in the rain and a little
> > hail.. great day for an autocross... fired the car up and the stumble
> > was gone....let it cool and retorqued
> >
> > I found a window in between showers and get in line
> > then it starts to sprinkle again then rain.. but by the time
> > I run it is sunny and dry... car ran good.. driver a little rusty
> > as it has been five years since autocrossing
> >
> > Ran the car in Vintage group with 22 cars.. second place not a first
> > but not bad.. one of my buddies told me a long time ago
> > to put those seconds and third place trophies in a drawer
> > Car pushed real bad the last time I ran with softer springs
> > and lighter bars but is now neutral with the 550/750 springs
> > and 1" bars on both ends..yes I had the rear bar on it and it works
> > Got beat by a 911 Porch or Porshe
> >
> > At awards ceremony my buddy Dennis states how I send my
> > registration in every year and say I am bringing the Firebird and
> > then when I actually show up I bring the Pantera
> > then he says is there anybody here who did not know which
> > car was the Pantera.. gotta love those 180 headers
> > The De Anza guy passed by me and says its kinda loud
> > but then thanks me for bringing the car
> > Earlier the kid at registration asks what car I am running and I say
> > Pantera and he states not that nasty black one with the wing
> > that ran a few years back... I say yea... thats the one
> >
> > Car did well and was well received and thankfully did not have
> > that stumble it was doing earlier..I thanked Joe at Custom Alignment
> > for letting me put the car in his booth and he says it always has
> > a crowd around it.. some know the Pantera and others ask
> >  Thanks to my car buddies for helping out and giving support
> > As always I talked  to a few Pantera owners with cars not running
> > and few about the Pantera in the Fast 5 movie
> >
> > Great day for the Detomaso name and a lot of fun.. better than my
> Saturday
> > drive....
> > curbing two Kinesis wheels getting on the throttle in the wrong place
> >
> > Bob Benson #3 Black Pantera
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