[DeTomaso] 4 bolt ZF's? - here is one for sale

[Kirby Schrader]

If that EJ from Nebraska is the EJ I have met, then his last name is Poss.
If I remember correctly. I met him way back in 1985?, maybe 1986 at the
Woody Creek track in Colorado.
Ah, yes.... those were the days.... running Panteras on a go kart track.

EJ is a very nice guy who had a yellow '71. His license plate was 71 UFO and
one of his friends told me that super bike guys in Omaha would warn each
other NOT to take on the yellow car with the UFO license plate.
They'd get beat.

EJ apparently had nitrous on it at the time.

I would bet the flares he is talking about are GTS flares. They 'look' stock
off the car, but are slightly wider than the stock.

A lot of supposition above, but that may help.

FWIW,
Kirby


On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 13:48, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> So the reason that all of this discussion originally started is that I have
> found an ad for some misc pantera parts on craigslist in Omaha Nebraska.
> Here is the original link to the ad:
> http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/2347054391.html
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> I corresponded with this guy for over a week about some things he had for
> sale, including the ZF and got detailed photos of it and some sheet metal.
> Here is some additional info. His name is EJ. He definitely has a dash 1 ZF
> "4 bolt". It does not appear to have the bell housing, at least it's not in
> the pictures. Actually I haven't clarified. Photos show details of the
> manufacturing tag and gearing. He has told me he used to have an early 71
> and these are mostly parts left over from it years ago. On the ZF he states
> he doesn't really know what its worth.but from talking to him I think he
> knows enough not to be low balled like 500 bucks or something. He asked me
> to make an offer.I never did, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy
> it pretty cheap. I am not interested in it for myself. He says it was
> rebuilt by Butfoy in the early 80s.and still has Roy's tag on the case. It
> was stored indoors in his warehouse where it resides now. He has sent me
> photos of it, in good detail. It does appear to be rebuilt from the photos
> and does have a tag on it with recognizable hand writing. The ZF serial
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> is clearly visible so I assume you could contact Roy and he might have
> records of the build, but I don't know.
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> If you want me to send you photos of this gearbox let me know. it has the
> gearing on the tag that matches what John Buckman provided for early Dash 1
> gearing: Early Pantera dash 1 gearing:
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> 1st:    2.42
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> 2nd:  1.47
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> 3rd:   1.09
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> 4th:   0.96
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> 5th:   0.705
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> Rev: 2.86
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> This seller also says he has some other items for sale. He has some flairs
> that he told me he thought where aftermarket metal Grp 4 flairs. He sent me
> photos of them but to me they are pretty clearly stock body fender flares
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> lips that have been cut out of the car, I assume so somebody could install
> wide body flares at some point. I have a pic of those as well, and he has a
> passenger rear corner patch panel with taillight housing and exhaust
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> with a portion of the rear valance. Looks like a fabricated piece to me
> rather than cut from an original car but certainly could be worth something
> if you had corner damage on the pass rear.
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> Those are all the photos I have that he sent me, all that I inquired about,
> but he says he also has these items: a 71 dash and console, two "trunk
> pods", compact spares, and L style bumper, stock exhaust system, carbs and
> air cleaners, dip stick. Has a couple of oem suspension items, like a set
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> control arms, front calipers and new front and rear pads "in the box".
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> I'm passing this info on for the list's use. I talked to EJ just yesterday
> and told him I was going to pass this info on to the masses.he told me he
> will be putting the items he has for sale on ebay simply because he doesn't
> know what they are worth..and he feels that the auction nature will
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
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> Behalf Of MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:53 PM
> To: michaelsavga at gmail.com
> Cc: guson at home.se; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 4 bolt ZF's?
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> In a message dated 5/7/11 17 13 16, michaelsavga at gmail.com writes:
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> > Thanks , as always there is more to the story.
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> I certainly wouldn't feel bad if I had a Dash-1 gearbox in my car.   One
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> downside is that parts are substantially more expensive, so rebuilding one
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> becomes a time-consuming and expensive proposition.   All parts are still
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> made for them however.   If you had an unusual problem it might take quite
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> a few months to get an unusual part replicated.
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> Mike
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