[DeTomaso] 4 bolt ZF's? - here is one for sale

[Cullen McCann]

Friends,

 

So the reason that all of this discussion originally started is that I have
found an ad for some misc pantera parts on craigslist in Omaha Nebraska.
Here is the original link to the ad:
http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/2347054391.html

 

I corresponded with this guy for over a week about some things he had for
sale, including the ZF and got detailed photos of it and some sheet metal.
Here is some additional info. His name is EJ. He definitely has a dash 1 ZF
"4 bolt". It does not appear to have the bell housing, at least it's not in
the pictures. Actually I haven't clarified. Photos show details of the
manufacturing tag and gearing. He has told me he used to have an early 71
and these are mostly parts left over from it years ago. On the ZF he states
he doesn't really know what its worth.but from talking to him I think he
knows enough not to be low balled like 500 bucks or something. He asked me
to make an offer.I never did, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy
it pretty cheap. I am not interested in it for myself. He says it was
rebuilt by Butfoy in the early 80s.and still has Roy's tag on the case. It
was stored indoors in his warehouse where it resides now. He has sent me
photos of it, in good detail. It does appear to be rebuilt from the photos
and does have a tag on it with recognizable hand writing. The ZF serial info
is clearly visible so I assume you could contact Roy and he might have
records of the build, but I don't know.

 

If you want me to send you photos of this gearbox let me know. it has the
gearing on the tag that matches what John Buckman provided for early Dash 1
gearing: Early Pantera dash 1 gearing:

 

1st:    2.42

2nd:  1.47

3rd:   1.09

4th:   0.96

5th:   0.705

Rev: 2.86

 

This seller also says he has some other items for sale. He has some flairs
that he told me he thought where aftermarket metal Grp 4 flairs. He sent me
photos of them but to me they are pretty clearly stock body fender flares or
lips that have been cut out of the car, I assume so somebody could install
wide body flares at some point. I have a pic of those as well, and he has a
passenger rear corner patch panel with taillight housing and exhaust cutout,
with a portion of the rear valance. Looks like a fabricated piece to me
rather than cut from an original car but certainly could be worth something
if you had corner damage on the pass rear.  

 

Those are all the photos I have that he sent me, all that I inquired about,
but he says he also has these items: a 71 dash and console, two "trunk
pods", compact spares, and L style bumper, stock exhaust system, carbs and
air cleaners, dip stick. Has a couple of oem suspension items, like a set of
control arms, front calipers and new front and rear pads "in the box". 

 

I'm passing this info on for the list's use. I talked to EJ just yesterday
and told him I was going to pass this info on to the masses.he told me he
will be putting the items he has for sale on ebay simply because he doesn't
know what they are worth..and he feels that the auction nature will
inherently determine that.

 

Good luck!

 

Cullen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of MikeLDrew at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:53 PM
To: michaelsavga at gmail.com
Cc: guson at home.se; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 4 bolt ZF's?

 

 

In a message dated 5/7/11 17 13 16, michaelsavga at gmail.com writes:

 

 

> Thanks , as always there is more to the story.

> 

 

I certainly wouldn't feel bad if I had a Dash-1 gearbox in my car.   One 

downside is that parts are substantially more expensive, so rebuilding one 

becomes a time-consuming and expensive proposition.   All parts are still
being 

made for them however.   If you had an unusual problem it might take quite 

a few months to get an unusual part replicated.

 

Mike

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