[DeTomaso] REALLY, TOTALLY NPC - Where are vehicles made

[wkooiman at earthlink.net]

I don't like that they're called entitlement programs, when I've been paying for them.  An entitlement is something you are entitled to due to legislation - merely for existing.

Calling it an entitlement is a political maneuver.

If they're going to continue calling them entitlement programs, they should change the Declaration of Independence to say, "...life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security...".


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>From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>Sent: May 11, 2011 10:39 AM
>To: Pantera List Serve <detomaso at realbig.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] REALLY, TOTALLY NPC - Where are vehicles made
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>Entitlement programs for 2010 totaled about 1.5 trillion.  According to the stats below, that's more in one year than the total combined cost of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan to date...  Add up the total expenditures for entitlement programs over the last ten years and you'll get an idea of the real perspective. 
> I don't know about you, but a strong armed forces is pretty important to me, even if I may not agree with every conflict in which our leaders embroil us.
>Chris
>PS  I really enjoy these debates (but not as much as I enjoy my Pantera!)
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>To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso]  REALLY, TOTALLY NPC - Where are vehicles made
>Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 01:41:30 -0400
>From: fresnofinches at aol.com
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>almost hate to weigh in on this, but in fact, since 47% of Americans pay
> no income tax (source: USA Today), the impact of welfare moms, if you 
>include people who not only pay no income tax but also receive the 
>earned income tax credit--a rebate from those of us who do pay taxes--is
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>Okay, I'll accept your 47% if you accept this from the NY Times:
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>A Government Accountability Office study
> released in 2008 found that 55 percent of United States companies paid 
>no federal income taxes during at least one year in a seven-year period 
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>Need more realities of how Capitalism run without thought to Country, fellow citizens or employees works out??
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>Just off the top of my head, with a little help from Google-
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>Bernie's Ponzi scheme - 50 billion
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>S&L fraud of the 80's - 160 billion
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>AIG 182 billion
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>EITC cost for 2004 was about 36 billion
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>AFDC cost for 1996 was about 20 billion
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>War on Terror to date - Iraq - 815 billion
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>War on Terror to date - Afghanistan - 445 billion
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>Are you REALLY worried about how much of your tax dollars go to welfare/EITC when compared to the other ways our tax dollars are wasted to support  never-ending wars and never-ending bailouts of those whose lives revolve around their never-ending greed and corruption?
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