[DeTomaso] NPC fascinating "financial planner" view of the SUV vs. gas-efficient car argument

Wed May 11 09:26:05 EDT 2011

Let me add, so we can all be "nice" to each other, In the TO: spot above, erase all addresses, except the detomaso at realbig.com!!    NOW, MY REPLY TO "G" and to all:  The ultimate "share all to all" which is communism, has proven the Animal Farm statement:  "All animals....more equal." to always be true.  Some people are smarter and some people are more driven, and they deserve and should get more - and by golly, they WILL get more.  [If I could figure out how to make a pargraph on this realbig.com site, I would make one here.]    If each individual would manage their own money properly, there would be no rampant greed, nor Maadoff-type scenarios.  If you own stock in a company that you feel overpays their officers, then sell your stock, etc., etc.  If you feel that the Wall Street dude makes too much money, take your money out.  Seems too simple.  Oh, but you've got to study, think, and make decisions - oh no, let me pay someone to do that. [paragraph]    But, if I feel that the welfare system is unfair to my pocketbook, what options do I have!  After writing my letters to my congressfolks - what's left.  [paragraph]  Another burr under my saddle:  the black leaders in America.  One question, What are they doing to solve the problems of their people in America!!!!!!  Welfare is full of blacks.  Prisons are full of blacks.  Life is horrible for blacks.  If those statements are true, then I am not a racist - so don't even bring that up.  Facts are facts.  You've all seen the email that we get from Bill Cosby (which we all no is not true), where he makes all his statements to his people:  stop having babies, pull up your pants, wear respectable clothes, go to college, don't do dope, etc. - hey, those are my thoughts also.  They need a leader/s to stand up and say You people act like a$$holes - get your act together.     ----Bill (yep, I'm mad - liberals just want to wring their hands and blame everyone else) Lewis

> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 07:13:38 -0500
> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> To: wdemelo at cogeco.ca
> CC: fresnofinches at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC fascinating "financial planner" view of the SUV vs. gas-efficient car argument
> 
> Feel good liberals always want to do what feels good; hang a banker, kill
> a bad leader, but they don't want to do what is right or what needs to be
> done. They are knee jerk reactions because they make too much, or it would
> feel good to take them out.
> 
> Unions have killed American industry by telling the workers CEO's make too
> much therefore it's ok for them to extort and steel from a company. Unions
> love that leaders make so much because it allows them to get the base
> fired up every time and the only winner is the union leaders; until the
> industry is driven from the country.
> 
> Albeit welfare moms or rich CEO's, I don't blame the people, I blame the
> system. Too much liberalism and not enough personal freedom and capitalism
> on both accounts.
> 
> CEO pay is it's own issue and should not be tied to or used to justify
> ANYTHING else. My problem with CEO pay is that there is not ENOUGH
> capitalism.
> 
> I am not one for making rules and regs but there is one regulation I would
> like to see. First you have to understand who the owners of the companies
> are; your 401k, your investments, grandma's, etc.
> 
> Now here is the important part. IF you owned a company by yourself and you
> had a CEO or a manager, would you know what he makes? In your 401k I would
> bet you don't even know 1% of the CEO names in your portfolios much less
> what they make.
> 
> When you buy a stock from a broker, or 401k, etc, you look over packages
> and base them on things like industry and risk. My solution would be to
> REQUIRE companies and investors to make available, in the same way, CEO
> and upper management pay and benefits in the same way.
> 
> So when you buy companies you say, "I want technology firms with CEO's in
> the 50% range where they are paid well for what they do (because they do a
> good job) but they are not raping the company.
> 
> THAT would make capitalism do what it does best!
> 
> NOW if your a private owner of a company and make 6 billion a year, MORE
> POWER TO YOU!!!
> 
> G
> 
> 
> >>>>>Unless you are a Wall Street Baron, a CEO, a commodities trader, or
> >>>>> some
> >>>>>other type of
> >> greedy, un-principled, lacking-common morals member of the
> >> I've-got-mine-but-still-want-a-lot-more group.>>>>>>
> >
> > Put $1,000,000., in $100 bills on a table. Line up 100 people from
> > different
> > races, genders, professions, etc. Tell everyone to take only what they
> > need
> > and share. Let one person in at a time. Let me know how much is left after
> > person # 2 or 3.
> > Larry, greed is everywhere. A sad fact of life.
> > Will
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GW
> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:40 PM
> > To: Larry Finch
> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC fascinating "financial planner" view of the
> > SUV
> > vs. gas-efficient car argument
> >
> > So those who make more all always to blame!
> >
> > Larry Finch wrote:
> >>  Interesting read, along with the forum responses.
> >>
> >> The point not being made in any of these posts is perhaps the most
> >> important.
> >>
> >> Just like money, the supply of petroleum reserves is not unlimited.
> >>
> >> Conservation of BOTH is of importance.
> >>
> >> Despite what some people believe, it is not always about the bottom
> >> line.
> >>
> >> Unless you are a Wall Street Baron, a CEO, a commodities trader, or some
> >> other type of
> >> greedy, un-principled, lacking-common morals member of the
> >> I've-got-mine-but-still-want-a-lot-more group.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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