[DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE ENGINE: THE FIRST OF ITS KIND

Jim Wallace pantera_4220 at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 30 14:52:55 EDT 2011 

All,
 
I would also like to add that these headers fit the car right out of the box, no field adjustments required.  I was also provided with 800 more RPM ove the Hall System that came with the car when I bought it.  The motor would fall flat on its face at 5400 rpm, not any more.
 
Jim

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, Mark Nygaard <markn at nyga.net> wrote:


From: Mark Nygaard <markn at nyga.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE ENGINE: THE FIRST OF ITS KIND
To: "Pantera REALBIG forum" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 12:58 PM


I don't recall writing in my email it was the best for all.  I was taking this from the context of a conversation I thought was interesting.  In that context, for the particular build he was speaking about these headers made 26 more horsepower. I did not grill anyone about the RPM range or the eventual application.

Mark

From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:40 AM
To: Pantera REALBIG forum; Mark Nygaard
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE ENGINE: THE FIRST OF ITS KIND

It does not seem possible that one particular headers design could be the best for all 351 Clevelands.   Shouldn't the header design complement the engine parameters, and specifically the RPM range the engine is intended to make power over?  And it isn't necessarily the single peak HP that is most important, it's having power over a useable RPM range.

Ken

--- On Wed, 3/30/11, Mark Nygaard <markn at nyga.net<mailto:markn at nyga.net>> wrote:

From: Mark Nygaard <markn at nyga.net<mailto:markn at nyga.net>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE ENGINE: THE FIRST OF ITS KIND
To: "Pantera REALBIG forum" <detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com>>
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 8:24 AM
For those of you that care.

I was looking at the engine on the web site and the headers look like the same headers on my car.  I got my headers from Pat at Performance Automotive so I gave him a call to find out what the deal was.  Pat told me that Mark McKeown was indeed buying headers from him and he commented that these were the best Cleveland headers he had worked with, making 26 more HP than other headers he was testing.

Best regards,

Mark


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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:17 PM
To: Cullen McCann
Cc: Pantera REALBIG forum
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE ENGINE: THE FIRST OF ITS KIND

LOL. 4 of my neighbors are 4W Harley owners (Whitehair WhiteColor Weekend Warriors). Every time my wife hears me comment on how obnoxious their straight pipes are, she reminds me that the Pantera going through the neighborhood shakes the house more than their hogs.  She knows how to make a guy smile.

I'd burn my money to keep warm if I had to. Lucky for me in Florida I can stay warm cooking steaks on the grill in mid winter......in shorts.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cmccann1972@gmail.com>>wrote:

> Rob, you're my hero...seriously. Please post multiple videos on YouTube
> when the transplant has been made...I even think you should peel out in
> a neighborhood, narrowly missing an innocent bystander so we can all
> publicly chastise you... it would be worth it to see her come to life with 640 horse.....
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> If I had your money I would burn mine to keep warm at night....      ;)
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> That's cool......
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> Cullen
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> *From:* Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rob@dumoulins.net>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:00 PM
> *To:* Cullen McCann
> *Cc:* Daniel C Jones; Pantera REALBIG forum
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> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE
> ENGINE: THE FIRST OF ITS KIND
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> For that money, I expect dinner and a movie.
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> I've talked to Michelle and Heather there and now I'm waiting for a builder
> to call me back.   I'm probably a year out in my "master plan", but want to
> know if it would be a direct bolt-on to an existing Cleveland setup.
> My 40 year old gal is tired and I'll trade out her guts for 640HP in a
> heartbeat once I get to the engine part of my restoration....uh.....budget permitting.
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cmccann1972@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
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> I love how you can just "add to your cart" on the webpage like
> shopping for gaskets on summit....that's incredible. I'm sure there
> are some of you out there that would..but this poor Oklahoma boy
> doesn't just "add" a 19 THOUSAND DOLLAR engine to my shopping cart and pay with credit....
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> I can't even imagine....I would have to touch, feel, talk to somebody
> at length.... customer references, dyno sheets....it would be
> something more...
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> Cullen
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> Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:30 PM
> To: Daniel C Jones
> Cc: Pantera REALBIG forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: MME?s 21st CENTURY CLEVELAND 2K CRATE ENGINE:
> THE FIRST OF ITS KIND
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> The 'Ultimate Street Cleveland" is $18,999.  There's a 408 for $11,499
> plus core.
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> http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/7157879/8343727.htm
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> <http://www.racecrateengines.com/catalog/item/7157879/8343727.htm>I'd
> like to tuck 650HP under my lid.
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> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Daniel C Jones
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> > > $5,000 out the door for a 2K crate engine?  And here I thought I
> > > passed math class.
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> > 2K as in post year 2000.  5 figures as in costs more that $10K.
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