[DeTomaso] New Campagnolo GT5 and GT4 Wheels purchase

michael@michaelshortt.com michaelsavga at gmail.com
Mon Mar 14 13:39:15 EDT 2011


I offered Billet alum. 17 and 18 wheels made in the US at the Boyd's
facility for prices lower than already available Campy repos and 10
spokes ( same designs ) with a variety of custom features/sizes and
NOBODY bought anything.

Maybe it was me, maybe it was because it was coming from Boyd's, maybe
it was the economy.

Either way,

Good Luck



On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Roland Jaeckel <pantera874 at t-online.de> wrote:
> Yokohama still produces front tires. The "batch production" is a roumor by
> those, who stocked a lot of them and an excusionn, that is used, when they
> deliver older tires. I purchases a few set over the last two yeras and no
> tire was older than a few weeks, when i got them. Last tires i got for a US
> fellow in December, where produced 47th week of 2010. Rears are the same
> situation, but only avaiable from Pirelli.
> I had a conversation with a rim factory these days about manufacturing new
> 14x15 in aluminium. They claimed, that a batch of 50 rims won't cost more
> then 500 Euro per rim. A little bit less for the 10x15. They would also do
> 17" rims. The minimum batch would be 50 rims. Any investors out there?
>
> Roland Jaeckel
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:15 AM
> To: "Will Demelo" <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>
> Cc: "panteralist" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Campagnolo GT5 and GT4 Wheels purchase
>
>> Both front and rear tire availability comes and goes.
>>
>> Yokohama made a batch of front tires a few years back. Last I heard, the
>> Swedish club had a sizeable stash of them.
>>
>> People who are planning on keeping their original Campys should stock up
>> when they become available. I bought 8 rear tires a few years ago, and
>> have
>> a set of spares for the front as well anticipating that one day the supply
>> might dry up.
>>
>> New batches always seem to turn up just about the time the situation is
>> getting desperate. I suppose that there are no guarantees regarding future
>> availability though.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought there was a problem getting front tires for these wheels. Are
>>> they
>>> now available?
>>> Will
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bjoern Flesland" <bflesland at gmail.com>
>>> To: "panteralist" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Campagnolo GT5 and GT4 Wheels purchase
>>>
>>>
>>> > Email says:
>>> > *Our prices for 4 wheels*
>>> > *2 front 10 x 15 and 2 rear 13 (or 14) x 15 are*
>>> > *10 x 15 ......1.468,00 EURO*
>>> > *14 x 15 ......1.680,00 EURO*
>>> >
>>> > As I see it the total for 4 wheels is 1468.00 + 1680.00 EUR.
>>> > That equals 3148.00 EUR
>>> > Cheers Bjoern
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:45 PM, STEVEN BLUM <steveblum2 at msn.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I was going to question the price. The way it was originally priced is
>>> >> did
>>> > not say per wheel. I was thinking about 3100 euro for the set, 8600
>>> > plus
>>> > shipping  is another story.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>> >>> To: gmawtig at gmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com; mikeldrew at aol.com
>>> >>> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:37:21 -0800
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Campagnolo GT5 and GT4 Wheels purchase
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have had contact with Cesare on the subject previosuly and I'm
>>> > interested in a set at the right price.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If the pricing comes down 20% on a group buy and we get the price
>>> >>> below
>>> > $7K a set I'm in but at current EU1468 and EU1680 per wheel and today's
>>> > exchange rate $8670 a set is still a bit steep. We have to figure
>>> shipping
>>> > from Italy on top of that price. Any import duties payable?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Julian
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:00:04 -0500
>>> >>> > From: gmawtig at gmail.com
>>> >>> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> >>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] New Campagnolo GT5 and GT4 Wheels purchase
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Subject: New Campagnolo GT5 and GT4 Wheels
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Guys and Gals,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Would anyone be interested in a group purchase? Below is
>>> >>> > the email from Cesear who's remaking the Campys. Cesare
>>> >>> > said Mike Drew would hold the money but I don't know what
>>> >>> > the turn around time will be yet.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > URL from Cesare with pictures of the wheels being made:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=29589
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Contact me off the ring if you'd like gmawtig at gmail.com
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thank you
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > David Kelly
>>> >>> > Richmond, VA
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > from cesare magistrali <cisitalia73 at yahoo.it>
>>> >>> > to David Kelly <gmawtig at gmail.com>
>>> >>> > date Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:33 AM
>>> >>> > subject R: Pantera GT5 wheels?
>>> >>> > signed-by yahoo.it
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > hide details Mar 8 (4 days ago)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Hello David,
>>> >>> > Mike it's informed of all step of our project of De Tomaso wheels
>>> just
>>> > some
>>> >>> > months after we own all Campagnolo Mould and De Tomaso /Campagnolo
>>> > Drawing.
>>> >>> > Wheels prices depend alot from the quantity, for that reason I ask
>>> >>> > to
>>> > the
>>> >>> > club to give the information to all Owners for be able to collect
>>> some
>>> >>> > orders.
>>> >>> > Now we have many peoples who are in contact with us and like to buy
>>> >>> > Gr4
>>> >>> > wheels and we want to have just 20/30 wheels in each size for start
>>> to
>>> > cast
>>> >>> > for offer a good price for all.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I say that because I make for some customers just 4/8 wheels but
>>> >>> > they
>>> > agree
>>> >>> > for pay the costs for make only these wheels .
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Our prices for 4 wheels
>>> >>> > 2 front 10 x 15 and 2 rear 13 (or 14) x 15 are
>>> >>> > 10 x 15 ......1.468,00 EURO
>>> >>> > 14 x 15 ......1.680,00 EURO
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > This week we must meet the Ex German Importer who want to buy some
>>> > wheels of
>>> >>> > Gr4 and agree for GTS who it's next step, if with Him and other who
>>> >>> > are
>>> > in
>>> >>> > contact for buy Gr4 wheels we can collect some wheels also just 20
>>> > front and
>>> >>> > 20 rear we can offer 15/20% discount.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Prices are the same all over the world any differences.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Just because my respect for Mike Drew it's very hight I can if You
>>> are
>>> >>> > really interested to manage some discount who we can agree with a %
>>> of
>>> >>> > advance who we must ask for
>>> >>> > wheels ( as 13 who it's not request alot because all want to go on
>>> >>> > 14
>>> >>> > x
>>> > 15 )
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > All wheels are pruduced with quality alloy
>>> >>> > All (100%) of custing will be inspected with liquid penetrant and
>>> >>> > x-ray
>>> >>> > Machined by CNC with factory drawing specs
>>> >>> > All wheels machined will be again inspected with liquid penetrant
>>> >>> > and
>>> > x-ray
>>> >>> > All wheels receive a surface treatement for avoid Magnesium
>>> >>> > corrosion
>>> >>> > (DOW17)
>>> >>> > Wheels are painted or at request (usually we suggest to Owners to
>>> >>> > paint
>>> >>> > themselfes than they can paint in theyr favourite colour .
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > We can save some money on quantity for reserve a discount to
>>> >>> > Pantera
>>> > Owners
>>> >>> > but we can't accept to offer interesting ceaper prices and save
>>> >>> > money
>>> > for
>>> >>> > the safety of the wheels.
>>> >>> > For example gravity sand casting quality we can found only if we
>>> >>> > have
>>> >>> > (magnesium it's very light than aluminium) alot of wheight of alloy
>>> > custed
>>> >>> > over the wheels inside of sand.
>>> >>> > For that reason if 14 x 15 wheel wheight it's 27/28kg we cust near
>>> >>> > 70Kg
>>> > of
>>> >>> > Magnesium !!!!!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Sorry for my poar englisch David, I hope who You can undertand who
>>> >>> > I
>>> > mean
>>> >>> > from what I write and Please if You have any question ask, I answer
>>> > with
>>> >>> > Pleasure !!!!!!!!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I attached some pictures for You
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > All The Best
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Cesare Magistrali
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