[DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 14 16:22:07 EDT 2011 

I think the very light weight carbon fiber decks are made in an autoclave which is expensive but very good.  But in the past, I thought people said the fiberglass rear decks were about 40 pounds?
 
Ken

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids
To: kenn_green at yahoo.com, "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>, cmccann1972 at gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:54 AM



Personally I'd want more than just that weight number to be sure, the Euro true CF's are like 3kg (~6lb), my glass fiber one is less than 20lb, so until confirmed otherwise I'd assume it's an overlay, mostly because I know of no one in the US producing true CF units. Of course even if it does turn out to be an all CF unit it depends if it was hand laid (still mostly aesthetic) versus vacuum formed and autoclaved for strength and lightness.

Here's a link to the European decklids (they had doors at one point too), prices are in Swedish Krona and a rear decklid works out at a little over $3K, which compared to the almost equivalent price of a carbon overlay unit here in the US is a great deal IMO. You'd need a group buy to warrant bulk shipping though.

http://tinyurl.com/3oft6zv

Julian




Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:24:11 -0700
From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids
To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com; cmccann1972 at gmail.com






I emailed the seller and he said it is something less than 20 pounds, if that is accurate, it is probably all carbon fiber.

Ken

--- On Tue, 6/14/11, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids
To: "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, kenn_green at yahoo.com, "'De Tomaso List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:19 AM


Wow.I get back from lunch and already have informative reading. Thanks
Julian for this info on the overlays.I didn't know that at all.that does
change my perspective. I definitely am not paying 2500 bucks or more for an
imitation decklid.even though the fiber is fiberlous..



From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:35 PM
To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; De Tomaso List; cmccann1972 at gmail.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids



Yeah you can't exactly trim a CF decklid if you want to retain the carbon
look, whereas with a glass one you can modify as required. Be aware that
nearly all the CF decklids for sale in the US are a Carbon overlay
(aesthetic only) of a fiberglass decklid and just as heavy if not heavier.
There's one company I'm aware of in Europe producing true Carbon units.

Julian

> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:22:41 -0700
> From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> To: detomaso at realbig.com; cmccann1972 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids
> 
> Cullen,
>  
>     I have a 20 pound deck made of Barotex (http://barotextechnology.com/)
which was made from a mold of my early 72 deck.  It fits the 72 really well,
but is a poor fit to a 73 and would require serious mods.  Others have also
said there are differences, but I'm not sure if they are early to late cars,
or each car is different.
>  
> Ken
> 
> --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Glass and Fiber Decklids
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 9:34 AM
> 
> 
> Hello friends, 
> 
> 
> 
> There is a carbon fiber decklid on ebay at the moment. Seller claims its
> used but does appear to be in good shape. Price is 2500 bucks. I don't
think
> I'm buying a 2500 decklid right now but who of our vendors sells them so I
> can budget and price compare against my options.new to used, etc? As well
as
> fiberglass? 
> 
> 
> 
> I have rust ( of course) in the leading edge of my deck lid. I CAN repair
> it.but it will be a painstaking process to do correctly, and keep heat
> distortion minimized across the expansive diaphragm like character of that
> decklid. Like anything else im weighing my options for repairing the lid I
> have, vs. good replacement steel deck lid with no cancer, a fiberglass lid
(
> will mostly likely need hours upon hours of fitment work) or a carbon
fiber
> lid. I assume they need to be fitted too.but I don't know how to work
carbon
> fiber, if it can even be done? I can trim a panel like anyone, but if you
> had to fill a carbon fiber panel to bring it into true.I honestly wouldn't
> know where to start.
> 
> 
> 
> Keep in mind that labor doesn't particularly scare me, and the best
solution
> for me is not usually to buy the version that solves my problems the
fastest
> and easiest. I'm just thinking about practicality and logic..well and the
> sexiness of a carbon fiber lid too..  ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you all for your thoughts.
> 
> 
> 
> Cullen
> 
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