[DeTomaso] NPC - Cordless Drill needed

[Bill Lewis]

After reading the replies, I went outside and looked at my old drill:  Lo & Behold, it is a Ryobi 18v, model # P209.  (Popular Mechanics recommends the Ryobi # P203).                     ----Questions:  I have had the battery on the charger (many days) - the charge light shows "Yellow"    Red means discharged.  Yellow means ??   Green means Charged.  I put the battery in the drill and it did not work.  I started jacking with all the dials, buttons, etc., and then put the battery in a little saw that came with the set when I bought it new.  The saw ran, but acted like it was on the end of a charge.  (I then tried it in  light and a sander - and they both worked but seemed low-battery power). I put the battery in the drill and it worked now.  --Before today I had thought of buying new batteries, but did not know it my drill was bad.                                                                                                                                      --So, should I buy a new battery?  Or try what Gary says in his email (Gary, how do I hook up my car charger to a drill battery)?  Or buy a new drill set?          Thanks, Bill



> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:54:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Cordless Drill needed
> From: gow2 at rc-tech.net
> To: lotus0005 at hotmail.com
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> 
> I spent a lot of time thinking about new drills last winter.
> 
> My main beef is with Ni-cad batteries. Often chargers are not peak voltage
> but timed chargers. If you put a battery intended for a 3hr charge on an
> overnight charge your batteries are toast in pretty short order. For years
> many battery appliances have been built this way; it sells a lot for
> batteries.
> 
> Ni-cad batteries suffer from other problems such as memory. They suddenly
> have very little capacity. Over the years I have came up with a solution
> which has given life back to many old Ni-cad batteries.
> 
> I have gotten capacity back in old dry cell ni-cads by batteries by
> charging them with car battery chargers on high till hot. Internally not
> all of the battery internals are touching and therefore not being used. By
> charging it with high current and getting it hot makes the internals
> slightly moltant and they begin to touch again. This makes areas of the
> battery which were not participating in the program participants again.
> 
> Keep in mind this is a little risky. It is not always a great idea to
> bring high current to batteries. It should be done outside and you should
> be back away from the battery a little in case it ruptures. Needless to
> say this is for batteries in seemingly un recoverable condition.
> 
> In my search for drills, I layed down some "have to's".
> 1. No Ni-cads
> 2. Lithium only
> 3. 18v min
> 4. Multipurpose meaning used in other tools.
> 
> I ended up with Ryobi from lowes. I bought a drill which came with 2
> batteries then bought an additional large capacity battery.
> 
> The nice thing about the Lithium is they charge to voltage then the
> charger shuts off. You can put the battery on charge and walk away.
> 
> I abuse stuff like drills. Despite not being considered as industrial as
> Dewalt, it has held up to my torchure and then some. I am not easy on
> these things by any means. The batteries have too. Price is a fraction of
> Dewalt as well.
> 
> I also got the Ryobe Impact driver which uses the same batteries. That is
> an underestimated tool. That thing is pretty handy and it is pretty
> strong.
> 
> After what I have done to them, i they would burn out now I would
> understand why but they are as strong as ever.
> 
> If I had to do it all over again I would not hesitate to do the same thing.
> 
> GAry
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > The cordless drill that I have had about 5 years has finally quit.  Don't
> > know if it is the batteries or the drill - but figure it's probably just
> > as cheap to buy a new one as to buy new batteries.                --------
> >               So, my question is what brand and model does anyone
> > recommend?   Normal home type use.
> > Thanks, Bill Lewis
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