[DeTomaso] starter fit

[Ken Green]

The nose I bought is PN 54-064 which comes on a 54-10018 starter.  Summit lists it here as fitting a BOSS 351:
 
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-54-10018/Application/?query=Year%7c1971%7cMake%7cFORD%7cModel%7cMUSTANG&prefilter=1
 
The starter gear reaches 0.23 inches from the mounting surface towards the ring gear and looks good in relation to the ring gear.  The clearance in shown in the attached photo.
 
Since a Cleveland used the same flywheel and bell housing as a Windsor, the only difference could be depth, but it seems like the depth should be the same or the trans input shaft would not properly engage the bearing depth in the flywheel? 
 
There are also different pinion gears.  The tech guy at Tilton checked my starter PN vs the 54-10018 and they were the same, so I just had to swap noses (at least in theory, LOL)
 
Ken

--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] starter fit
To: detomaso at realbig.com, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 8:05 PM


Ken...
 
I also have a Tilton starter I got used which fit fine but when I started the engine the starter hung up and made a God awful noise! When I called Tilton they told me they never made a starter for a Cleveland? I got another thicker nose for the starter from Tommy Hodges, I think from a 460 engine so the gear didn't stick out so far! Hopefully that is the same nose you got?
 
Good Luck
Curt


--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] starter fit
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 7:31 PM


I have been playing with a couple starters I am selling to make sure they fit, and found a great drawing on the Tilton web site:
 
http://tiltonracing.com/pdfs/4167.pdf
 
I have a Tilton Super Starter with a different nose, and after talking to the Tilton Tech line ordered the nose on the PN 54-10018 starter:
 
http://tiltonracing.com/incs/imagethumb.php?picture=s0053
 
which they said would work on a SBF with a manual transmission.  They also said the starter gear for an automatic needs to stick out farther to engage the flex plate.  Installation instructions are here:
 
http://tiltonracing.com/pdfs/98-095.pdf
 
showing the relationship of the starter gear and ring gear.  It appears everything fits, I just wondered if the material Tilton provided agrees with what others have found? 
 
A long time ago I thought people said that a Cleveland used a different starter, but it looks like that was incorrect?
 
Ken
 
 
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