[DeTomaso] Fwd: NPC: Clunker Math

Tue Jan 25 14:25:37 EST 2011

Nah, just another "American Idiot" like me and all of us with Gasoline for
blood.

Michael

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com>wrote:

> Hey, I like Green Day! Are you calling me a rebellious BS kid? I will take
> it as a compliment.  :-)
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 1/25/11 10:23 AM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chris I agree with you in every way, but consider the show biz aspect,
> Green
> > Day appeals to rebellious BS kids, they know their market.  I also know
> that
> > the drums may or may not have been what they were labelled and even if
> they
> > were, it was built into the cost of the show as an expendable prop, just
> as
> > if the dollars were being used for fireworks, flames, smoke, etc.
>  Monster
> > Truck shows do the same thing when they buy used cars to crush, or like I
> > have done, bought TV to smash, tables to break and dishes to throw or
> even
> > chased a guy down and bought his car out from under him so I could jump
> it
> > over a fence and ruin it, it was perfectly decent car before I ruined it,
> so
> > was the motorboat I sank once, motorcycle I laid down or the house we
> burned
> > to the ground for a movie.
> >
> > It's show biz and nothing makes sense as long as the final numbers are
> Black
> > instead of Red.
> >
> > Michael Shortt
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Christopher Kimball
> > <chrisvkimball at msn.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I tend to avoid voicing my political opinion too much on the forum (I
> don't
> >> want to offend any of the people who have given and continue to give me
> help
> >> with my Pantera), but I will say this:  Last year I went to a car show,
> and
> >> one of the "contests" they did was to have people guess how long a car
> would
> >> last with all the fluids drained and a brick on the accelerator.  The
> car
> >> they used was something like a mid-80's Cordoba; not a car I care about,
> but
> >> just as nice (or nicer) than my first car.  I watched with morbid
> >> fascination as this perfectly good car was ruined right before my eyes.
>  The
> >> rationale behind it was that this car was one of the cash for clunkers
> >> trade-ins and had to be ruined anyway.  I thought of my son who, after
> >> working hard toward the goal, recently finished paying off his first
> car,
> >> yet the car in the "contest" one was simply wasted.
> >>
> >> Watching the car go up in smoke, I felt the same way I did when I saw a
> >> video of the band Green Day smashing and burning their instruments at
> the
> >> end of a concert--sick to my stomach.  I was a young drummer once, and
> saved
> >> every cent I could to buy good-quality equipment, and now I see that
> idiot
> >> Green Day drummer destroying perfectly good drums and cymbals.
> >>
> >> That kind of indescriminant waste of resources is criminal, whether
> >> sanctioned by the Government or a rich, spoiled celebrity.
> >>
> >> That's my opinion, of course.  And in the interest of full disclosure, I
> do
> >> admit to putting a firecracker in a Johnny Lightning when I was a kid
> and
> >> blowing it up just for kicks.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:14:58 -0800
> >>> From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> >>> To: detomaso at realbig.com; JJD1010 at aol.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: NPC: Clunker Math
> >>>
> >>> After seeing some seriously flawed answers on snopes, I did some
> >> research.  It is run by bleeding heart liberals who support Obama, and
> >> snopes is supported by George Soros.  It is great at giving the part of
> the
> >> truth that supports liberal positions.
> >>>
> >>> But what makes me really angry is that other than the UAW, they only
> >> people who benefited from this idiotic waste of taxes were people who
> could
> >> afford new cars, and the cars I saw sitting waiting to be crushed were a
> lot
> >> better than many cars our kids are driving.  Only an idiot would crush
> these
> >> cars instead of at least offering them to low income, students, etc.
>  This
> >> is a prime example of how the present administration has no grasp of
> >> economic reality and really doesn't care about helping low income
> people.
> >>>
> >>> Ken
> >>>
> >>> --- On Mon, 1/24/11, JJD1010 at aol.com <JJD1010 at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: JJD1010 at aol.com <JJD1010 at aol.com>
> >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: NPC: Clunker Math
> >>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >>> Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 7:19 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mostly false according to Snopes. Bad math and bad logic.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>> 6559
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________
> >>> From: mbefthomas at comcast.net
> >>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >>> Sent: 1/24/2011  8:33:46 P.M. Central Standard Time
> >>> Subj: [DeTomaso] NPC: Clunker  Math
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Clunker math
> >>>
> >>> The person  who calculated this bit of information is now & has been a
> >>> professor at  The University of West Virginia in Morgantown, West
> >> Virginia
> >>> for the last  forty some years.  I never looked at the clunker program
> in
> >>> such  depth.
> >>>
> >>> Clunker Math - Think of it  this way:
> >>>
> >>> a.. A clunker that travels 12,000 miles  a year at 15 mpg uses 800
> >>> gallons of gas a year.
> >>> a.. A vehicle that travels 12,000 miles a year at 25 mpg uses 480
> >>> gallons a  year.
> >>> a.. So, the average Cash for Clunkers  transaction will reduce US
> >>> gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per  year.
> >>> a.. They claim 700,000 vehicles were turned in  so that's 224 million
> >>> gallons saved per year.
> >>> a..  That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil.
> >>> a.. 5 million barrels is about 5 hours worth of US consumption.
> >>> a.. More importantly, 5 million barrels of oil at $70 per barrel  costs
> >>> about $350 million dollars.
> >>> So, the government paid  $3 billion of our tax dollars to save $350
> >>> million.
> >>>
> >>> We spent $8.57 for every dollar we saved. On top of that  used car
> prices
> >>> went up 18%.
> >>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure they  will do a great job with our health care,
>  though.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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