[DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
Will Demelo
wdemelo at cogeco.ca
Sat Jan 22 19:23:26 EST 2011
All, can we drop the BJ thread?
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm at qwest.net>
To: "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>; <willnr at gmail.com>;
<bflesland at gmail.com>; "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> Scott, with all due respect, your credibility ended with the statement:
> "Yes, we are their PR firm". PR firms are, by definition, spin doctors and
> BS spreaders. Entities with obvious moral and ethical scruples, don't need
> someone to run interference for them. At least, you're up front concerning
> your relationship with B-J.
>
> Doug Kelm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: scott black
> To: dakelm at qwest.net ; willnr at gmail.com ; bflesland at gmail.com ; Julian
> Kift
> Cc: De Tomaso List
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:02 AM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
>
>
> 1. That is a slanderous statement
> 2. That is BS
> 3. Where in the world do you get such crap? Not a CREDIBLE source
> 4. Yes, we are their PR firm
>
> Its really amazing. You guys complain for years that Pantera's
> don't fetch enough at BJAC and that no one should sell them there. Then
> when a couple of cars do, you don't that they really sold for those
> prices. And you throw in BS about shills. What exactly do all of you
> want? Really....think about it.
>
> Scott Black
> TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing
> Marketing Acceleration
> www.tprm-usa.com
>
> --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> To: dakelm at qwest.net, timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com, willnr at gmail.com,
> bflesland at gmail.com
> Cc: "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 11:49 PM
>
>
> It is fairly common knowledge that BJ owns many of the cars under
> auction, they bid them up and the cars return to BJ's warehouse, thus
> driving up prices on similar such cars. Do some research and there is
> article after article on BJ's questionable practices, like they say
> "there's no smoke without fire".
>
> > From: dakelm at qwest.net
> > To: timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com; willnr at gmail.com;
> bflesland at gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:12:35 -0600
> > CC: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> >
> > What makes you think there is no shill bidding at B-J, or any
> other auction,
> > for that matter. All the shill has to do to avoid paying the
> commission(s)
> > is to get out before the bidding stops. Worst case, your shill
> ends up
> > owning the (your) car and you're out both ends of the
> commission, assuming
> > there is both a buyers and sellers commission. If the bidding
> goes high
> > enough (beyond your evaluation of your car), you take it on
> down the road to
> > the next auction, or sell it privately, using the shill bid as
> a
> > justification for the inflated asking price.
> >
> > Doug Kelm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Will Radcliffe" <willnr at gmail.com>; "Bjoern Flesland"
> > <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "DeTomaso Archives" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> >
> >
> > > There is no shill bidding at Barrett-Jackson. Yes, it was a
> real sale at
> > the all No Reserve auction.
> > >
> > > Scott Black
> > > TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing
> > > Marketing Acceleration
> > > www.tprm-usa.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> > > > To: "Will Radcliffe" <willnr at gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: "DeTomaso Archives" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> > > > Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 4:14 PM
> > > > Interesting. Do you think this
> > > > selling price is for real?
> > > > There are lots of shill bidding and other strange things
> > > > going on at these auctions!
> > > > Cheers Bjoern
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Den 21. jan. 2011 kl. 22:26 skrev Will Radcliffe
> <willnr at gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Here are the details for those who missed it:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=952&aid=403&pop=1
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Brian Hill
> <mazdastuff at yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Well, think we had our first surprise of the
> > > > day. 74 GTS Pantera just
> > > > >> crossed
> > > > >> the block at B-J for $90,000. What
> > > > recession.
> > > > >> Good grief.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Brian
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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