[DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS

[Douglas Kelm]

Scott, with all due respect, your credibility ended with the statement: "Yes, we are their PR firm". PR firms are, by definition, spin doctors and BS spreaders. Entities with obvious moral and ethical scruples, don't need someone to run interference for them. At least, you're up front concerning your relationship with B-J.

Doug Kelm
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: scott black 
  To: dakelm at qwest.net ; willnr at gmail.com ; bflesland at gmail.com ; Julian Kift 
  Cc: De Tomaso List 
  Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 10:02 AM
  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS


        1.  That is a slanderous statement
        2.  That is BS
        3.  Where in the world do you get such crap?  Not a CREDIBLE source 
        4.  Yes, we are their PR firm

        Its really amazing.  You guys complain for years that Pantera's don't fetch enough at BJAC and that no one should sell them there.  Then when a couple of cars do, you don't that they really sold for those prices.  And you throw in BS about shills.  What exactly do all of you want?  Really....think about it. 

        Scott Black 
        TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing
        Marketing Acceleration
        www.tprm-usa.com

        --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:


          From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
          Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
          To: dakelm at qwest.net, timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com, willnr at gmail.com, bflesland at gmail.com
          Cc: "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
          Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 11:49 PM


          It is fairly common knowledge that BJ owns many of the cars under auction, they bid them up and the cars return to BJ's warehouse, thus driving up prices on similar such cars. Do some research and there is article after article on BJ's questionable practices, like they say "there's no smoke without fire".
           
          > From: dakelm at qwest.net
          > To: timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com; willnr at gmail.com; bflesland at gmail.com
          > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:12:35 -0600
          > CC: DeTomaso at realbig.com
          > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
          > 
          > What makes you think there is no shill bidding at B-J, or any other auction,
          > for that matter. All the shill has to do to avoid paying the commission(s)
          > is to get out before the bidding stops. Worst case, your shill ends up
          > owning the (your) car and you're out both ends of the commission, assuming
          > there is both a buyers and sellers commission. If the bidding goes high
          > enough (beyond your evaluation of your car), you take it on down the road to
          > the next auction, or sell it privately, using the shill bid as a
          > justification for the inflated asking price.
          > 
          > Doug Kelm
          > 
          > ----- Original Message ----- 
          > From: "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
          > To: "Will Radcliffe" <willnr at gmail.com>; "Bjoern Flesland"
          > <bflesland at gmail.com>
          > Cc: "DeTomaso Archives" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
          > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:49 PM
          > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
          > 
          > 
          > > There is no shill bidding at Barrett-Jackson. Yes, it was a real sale at
          > the all No Reserve auction.
          > >
          > > Scott Black
          > > TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing
          > > Marketing Acceleration
          > > www.tprm-usa.com
          > >
          > >
          > > --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com> wrote:
          > >
          > > > From: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
          > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
          > > > To: "Will Radcliffe" <willnr at gmail.com>
          > > > Cc: "DeTomaso Archives" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
          > > > Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 4:14 PM
          > > > Interesting. Do you think this
          > > > selling price is for real?
          > > > There are lots of shill bidding and other strange things
          > > > going on at these auctions!
          > > > Cheers Bjoern
          > > >
          > > > Sent from my iPhone
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > Den 21. jan. 2011 kl. 22:26 skrev Will Radcliffe <willnr at gmail.com>:
          > > >
          > > > > Here are the details for those who missed it:
          > > > >
          > > > >
          > http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=952&aid=403&pop=1
          > > > >
          > > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Brian Hill <mazdastuff at yahoo.com>
          > > > wrote:
          > > > >
          > > > >> Well, think we had our first surprise of the
          > > > day. 74 GTS Pantera just
          > > > >> crossed
          > > > >> the block at B-J for $90,000. What
          > > > recession.
          > > > >> Good grief.
          > > > >>
          > > > >> Brian
          > > > >>
          > > > >>
          > > > >>
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