[DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS

Sat Jan 22 11:38:39 EST 2011

I commend you on a fine job Sir, as PR for BJ you and your firm have most certainly attained stardom status for BJ and should be handsomly rewarded.

In another thread I acknowledged that this years BJ Pantera prices can only be a plus for all of us. As auction sales are more widely reported over private sales the average selling price for a Pantera should climb significantly.

Everyone should do their own due diligence and read some of the articles out there and decide for themselves which are from credible sources say like the ejection of Keith Martin of Sports Car Market for voicing his opinion. I don't represent any company or collective opinion on this list/forum, purely my own for entertainment purposes only.... and sometimes just to get a rise and make a dull day more interesting ;>)

I will comment no further on this topic.

Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:02:30 -0800
From: timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
To: dakelm at qwest.net; willnr at gmail.com; bflesland at gmail.com; julian_kift at hotmail.com
CC: detomaso at realbig.com

1.  That is a slanderous statement
2.  That is BS
3.  Where in the world do you get such crap?  Not a CREDIBLE source 
4.  Yes, we are their PR firm

Its really amazing.  You guys complain for years that Pantera's don't fetch enough at BJAC and that no one should sell them there.  Then when a couple of cars do, you don't that they really sold for those prices.  And you throw in BS about shills.  What exactly do all of you want?  Really....think about it. 

Scott Black 
TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing
Marketing Acceleration
www.tprm-usa.com

--- On Fri, 1/21/11, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
To: dakelm at qwest.net, timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com, willnr at gmail.com, bflesland at gmail.com
Cc: "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 11:49 PM

It is fairly common knowledge that BJ owns many of the cars under auction, they bid them up and the cars return to BJ's warehouse, thus driving up prices on similar such cars. Do some research and there is article after article on BJ's questionable practices, like they say "there's no smoke without fire".

> From: dakelm at qwest.net
> To: timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com; willnr at gmail.com; bflesland at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:12:35 -0600
> CC: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> 
> What makes you think there is no shill bidding at B-J, or any other auction,
> for that matter. All the shill has to do to avoid paying the commission(s)
> is to get out before the bidding stops. Worst case, your shill ends up
> owning the (your) car and you're out both ends of the commission, assuming
> there is both a buyers and sellers commission. If the bidding goes high
> enough (beyond your evaluation of your car), you take it on down the road to
> the next auction, or sell it privately, using the shill bid as a
> justification for the inflated asking price.
> 
> Doug Kelm
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "scott black" <timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Will Radcliffe" <willnr at gmail.com>; "Bjoern Flesland"
> <bflesland at gmail.com>
> Cc: "DeTomaso Archives" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> 
> 
> > There is no shill bidding at Barrett-Jackson. Yes, it was a real sale at
> the all No Reserve auction.
> >
> > Scott Black
> > TimePiece Public Relations & Marketing
> > Marketing Acceleration
> > www.tprm-usa.com
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Barrett Jackson GTS
> > > To: "Will Radcliffe" <willnr at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: "DeTomaso Archives" <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> > > Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 4:14 PM
> > > Interesting. Do you think this
> > > selling price is for real?
> > > There are lots of shill bidding and other strange things
> > > going on at these auctions!
> > > Cheers Bjoern
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > Den 21. jan. 2011 kl. 22:26 skrev Will Radcliffe <willnr at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Here are the details for those who missed it:
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=952&aid=403&pop=1
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Brian Hill <mazdastuff at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Well, think we had our first surprise of the
> > > day. 74 GTS Pantera just
> > > >> crossed
> > > >> the block at B-J for $90,000. What
> > > recession.
> > > >> Good grief.
> > > >>
> > > >> Brian
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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