[DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?

Thu Jan 20 16:08:16 EST 2011

It may be a monument to something........not sure what.

If it had been me, My flower shop would have new SUPER digs inside the hotel
with easy outside access, rent free and I'd have a whole building full of
Panteras with the money I got as well.

Michael Shortt

There is a time to negotiate and settle, winning isn't everything if it
costs you more than the value of the spoils.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Lynn Wall <cars at wt-inc.com> wrote:

> Agreed,
>
> In fact, here in the land of the "Mormon tabernacle jazz choir" a
> billionaire wanted to build an incredibly beautiful hotel.  He bought out
> everyone on the block except one tiny flower shop.  The owner had been
> there
> for decades and did not see why he should have to sell.  The billionaire
> took him to court and lost at every level (state supreme court).  He then
> went the eminent domain route with the city playing the part of the
> "heavy".
> He lost again at every level.  Today there is a beautiful hotel that covers
> almost the entire block, all except for one small corner that has a tiny
> flower shop in an old building.  I think of it at a monument to the "little
> guy"
>
> Lynn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Robert Douglas
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: Ken Green; Bill Lewis; PANTERA-Larry; fresnofinches at aol.com;
> detomaso at realbig.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
>
> The government stealing intellectual property from a company is just
> un-American. Thousands of hands have worked on making those brands what
> they
> are, and the company is the one that should benefit from that work. What
> you
> are proposing would undermine our economic system as people wouldnšt have
> the protection to prosper from their ideas and labor.
>
> I am against the eminent domain of homes as well. Especially when property
> is turned over to private business. Building a freeway for the benefit of
> citizens? Ok, maybe. But taking property so the local government can simply
> generate more tax revenue for itself is just tacky.
>
> My two pennies.
>
> By the way, do I respond to all, or just detomaso at realbig.com when I want
> to
> comment? Sorry, new here.  :-)
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 1/20/11 10:28 AM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > A city might use eminent domain theory to force the sale of the
> trademarks
> to
> > the city.  That seems fair because eminent domain has been used to force
> the
> > sale of property to build facilities for the teams.  Oakland tried to
> force
> > the sale of the Raiders to the city under eminent domain when Davis moved
> the
> > team to LA, but the court said no because they found that operation of a
> > sports team was not a public use.  This seems inconsistent with the use
> of
> > eminent domain to force the sale of land.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
> >> To: "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, "PANTERA-Larry"
> >> <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, fresnofinches at aol.com, detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 9:12 AM
> >>
> >> I agree with the principle, but intellectual property law disagrees.
> Names,
> >> logos, etc. are owned by the team and go along with them to the next
> city. I
> >> know I am stating the obvious.
> >>
> >> It always seems like a shame when a team moves. They become so ingrained
> in
> >> the city's culture and history...only to leave because another city will
> >> build a better stadium or give them more tax breaks.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/20/11 7:04 AM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com
> >> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lotus0005@hotmail.com> >
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > All right - new "can of worms!" .  .  .  .  .  .When a sports team
> moves
> >>> from
> >>> > one city (Houston Oilers) to another (Tenn#@$%) - the team name,
> history,
> >>> > etc., should remain with the HOME city!!!!  Do you think those yahoos
> in
> >>> TN
> >>> > give a rip about Earl Campbell (He-who-walks-on-water in Houston)??
> I
> >>> > would give more examples, but they are too numerous.   ------Bill
> >>> (singing:
> >>> > Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers number one.........)
> Lewis
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>> >> From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> >>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@ohiotimecorp.com>
> >>>> >> To: fresnofinches at aol.com
> >>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fresnofinches@aol.com>
> ;
> >>>> detomaso at realbig.com
> >>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
> >>>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:51:08 -0500
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> << crying like a Little Girl>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> My dear friend Larry,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> If you had sports teams like we have, you too would be use to
> crying
> a
> >>>> lot.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Larry (Cavs tickets 4sale) - Cleveland
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
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> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com
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> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com
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> >>>> ] On
> >>>> >> Behalf Of Larry Finch
> >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:16 PM
> >>>> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
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> >>>> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>  Curt, My Dear Friend, wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> But...Pelosi was voted out of office,.....
> >>>> >> ----------------
> >>>> >> Uh, even a Faux Gnus watcher should know that isn't correct.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Say what you will about the first female Speaker of the House, but
> when
> it
> >>>> >> comes to crying like a
> >>>> >> Little Girl, the current Speaker of the House from Ohio, Rep. John
> >>>> Boehner,
> >>>> >> wins that one Hands Down!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Larry
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
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