[DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
Robert Douglas
douglas at entropygroup.com
Thu Jan 20 14:56:46 EST 2011
Ken,
You are right, a sports team has a huge impact on local business. But, so
does a Ford plant, and the government should not be allowed to tell a
business they cannot close a plant. Plus, it is not a loss as the jobs and
revenue are gained (and sometimes increased) in the new city.
You will find that my perspective has nothing to do with football. I am a
business owner and designer, so I believe intellectual property ownership
should be aggressively protected...football teams, not so much. :-)
Robert
On 1/20/11 11:51 AM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> I pretty much agree with you unless it's for national security. But moving
> a team probably has a big impact on local business. It's not nearly as simple
> as a trademark most businesses use.
>
> Ken
>
> --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
>> To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>,
>> "PANTERA-Larry" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, fresnofinches at aol.com,
>> detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 10:44 AM
>>
>> The government stealing intellectual property from a company is just
>> un-American. Thousands of hands have worked on making those brands what they
>> are, and the company is the one that should benefit from that work. What you
>> are proposing would undermine our economic system as people wouldn¹t have
>> the protection to prosper from their ideas and labor.
>>
>> I am against the eminent domain of homes as well. Especially when property
>> is turned over to private business. Building a freeway for the benefit of
>> citizens? Ok, maybe. But taking property so the local government can simply
>> generate more tax revenue for itself is just tacky.
>>
>> My two pennies.
>>
>> By the way, do I respond to all, or just detomaso at realbig.com
>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com> when I
>> want to
>> comment? Sorry, new here. :-)
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On 1/20/11 10:28 AM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com
>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kenn_green@yahoo.com> > wrote:
>>
>>> > A city might use eminent domain theory to force the sale of the trademarks
>>> to
>>> > the city. That seems fair because eminent domain has been used to force
>>> the
>>> > sale of property to build facilities for the teams. Oakland tried to
>>> force
>>> > the sale of the Raiders to the city under eminent domain when Davis moved
>>> the
>>> > team to LA, but the court said no because they found that operation of a
>>> > sports team was not a public use. This seems inconsistent with the use of
>>> > eminent domain to force the sale of land.
>>> >
>>> > Ken
>>> >
>>> > --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com
>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=douglas@entropygroup.com> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> From: Robert Douglas <douglas at entropygroup.com
>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=douglas@entropygroup.com> >
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
>>>> >> To: "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com
>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lotus0005@hotmail.com> >,
>>>> "PANTERA-Larry"
>>>> >> <larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@ohiotimecorp.com> >,
>>>> fresnofinches at aol.com
>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fresnofinches@aol.com> ,
>>>> detomaso at realbig.com
>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
>>>> >> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 9:12 AM
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I agree with the principle, but intellectual property law disagrees.
>>>> Names,
>>>> >> logos, etc. are owned by the team and go along with them to the next
>>>> city. I
>>>> >> know I am stating the obvious.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It always seems like a shame when a team moves. They become so ingrained
in
>>>> >> the city's culture and history...only to leave because another city will
>>>> >> build a better stadium or give them more tax breaks.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 1/20/11 7:04 AM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com
>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lotus0005@hotmail.com>
>>>> >> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lotus0005@hotmail.com> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > All right - new "can of worms!" . . . . . .When a sports team
moves
>>>>> >>> from
>>>>>> >>> > one city (Houston Oilers) to another (Tenn#@$%) - the team name,
>>>>>> history,
>>>>>> >>> > etc., should remain with the HOME city!!!! Do you think those
>>>>>> yahoos in
>>>>> >>> TN
>>>>>> >>> > give a rip about Earl Campbell (He-who-walks-on-water in Houston)??
I
>>>>>> >>> > would give more examples, but they are too numerous. ------Bill
>>>>> >>> (singing:
>>>>>> >>> > Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers number one.........)
Lewis
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> From: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>>>>>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@ohiotimecorp.com>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@ohiotimecorp.com>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> To: fresnofinches at aol.com
>>>>>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fresnofinches@aol.com>
>>>>>> >>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fresnofinches@aol.com>
;
>>>>>> >>>> detomaso at realbig.com
>>>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
>>>>>> >>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:51:08 -0500
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> << crying like a Little Girl>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> My dear friend Larry,
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> If you had sports teams like we have, you too would be use to
>>>>>>>> crying a
>>>>>> >>>> lot.
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Larry (Cavs tickets 4sale) - Cleveland
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>>>>>>
<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>
<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>
>>>>>> >>>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>>>>
<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>
<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>
>>>>>> >>>> ] On
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Behalf Of Larry Finch
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:16 PM
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>>>>>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
>>>>>> >>>> <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC...You may want to Delete?
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Curt, My Dear Friend, wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> But...Pelosi was voted out of office,.....
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> ----------------
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Uh, even a Faux Gnus watcher should know that isn't correct.
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Say what you will about the first female Speaker of the House,
>>>>>>>> but when
>> it
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> comes to crying like a
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Little Girl, the current Speaker of the House from Ohio, Rep.
John
>>>>>> >>>> Boehner,
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> wins that one Hands Down!
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> Larry
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
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