[DeTomaso] POCA Forum

Jim Gray grayjim at att.net
Mon Jan 17 17:40:37 EST 2011


Will,

Having seen your ability to express yourself, you should buy the PI name, move 
it to Canada and then we'd all get a whole new perspective on Pantera owning and 
events.  It's only money!

Jim "I miss the magazine too" Gray



----- Original Message ----
From: Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; charlesmccall at gmail.com; Jack Deryke 
<jderyke at aol.com>; mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk; De Tomaso List 
<detomaso at realbig.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 4:37:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Forum

I wouldn't bet on it. Too bad. I looked forward to getting the magazine.
Will

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; "Jack Deryke" <jderyke at aol.com>; 
<mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>; "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>; "Julian 
Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Forum


> What's the status of PI? I joined for the magazine much more than the 
> forum. Is there any hope that someone will revive the magazine?
>
> Ken
>
> --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Forum
> To: charlesmccall at gmail.com, "Jack Deryke" <jderyke at aol.com>, 
> mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk, "De Tomaso List" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 1:11 PM
>
>
>
> Agreed, I participate on both POCA and PI, (not so much on the Provamo 
> forum... that is classed a separate forum now isn't it? ;>)) Both e-mail 
> and web formats have pluses and minuses, there is no obvious winner. More 
> recently I see a lot of duplication of threads, whether that is indictaion 
> or prediction of anything for the future I have no idea. It may actually 
> be a good thing as at least a larger proportion of the Pantera community 
> is exposed to or participates in one way or another.
>
> As Asa Jay stated this debate comes up with some frequency and I think it 
> is worth taking a moment to look back at where it arises from......
>
>>From what I see it more often than not arises from a source who 
>>participated on both forums and for whatever reason had a disagreement 
>>with the moderator/owner of the PI forum so no longer participates there, 
>>but I guess that person obviously felt the PI format the better one. The 
>>motivation might be self serving in that if the POCA web forum were 
>>accepted more people would drift away from PI.
>
> Julian
>
>> From: charlesmccall at gmail.com
>> To: JDeRyke at aol.com; mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk; detomaso at realbig.com
>> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:24:50 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Forum
>>
>> Yes, but it doesn't have to be an either-or proposition.
>>
>> The PI forum exists. The POCA forum exists. You don't have to stop 
>> posting
>> here to subscribe to either forum. You don't have to cancel your account 
>> on
>> either forum to post here. So the whole debate is kind of senseless - it 
>> may
>> serve to inform those that are unaware of the other format, but nobody is
>> required to choose one system or the other...
>>
>> Charles McCall
>> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
>> "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
>> nombre de JDeRyke at aol.com
>> Enviado el: lunes, 17 de enero de 2011 21:19
>> Para: mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk; detomaso at realbig.com
>> Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Forum
>>
>> In a message dated 1/17/11 4:14:50 AM, mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk writes:
>>
>> > Those that prefer the current receiving mails format, are you on the PI
>> > Forum, have you experienced it? There you can set up so that you 
>> > receive a
>>
>> > daily email in a nice format with all the forum sections you're 
>> > interested
>>
>> > in (I've chosen All). You don't have to go into the forum at all to see
>> what
>> > happens. It's one mail instead of 30, it's good format, it shows 
>> > pictures
>> > and avatars, it let's you search old postings. It's f...... perfect, 
>> > and
>> it
>> > would make me post more (whether that's
>> > considered an advantage or not, I'll leave up to you :-))
>> >
>> I agree with Mikael, and add that once logged onto PI's forum, you can
>> select "remember me" and subsequent logs-on are not necessary- until each
>> time
>> they upgrade their software. But the 'remember' involves using the same
>> computer and location so if you have two, or move around the 
>> country/world,
>> the
>> 'remember me' sometimes doesn't work.
>> Second good thing: once 'remember me' is selected, I can click the daily
>> e-mail reminder, click on the 'DeTomaso Internet Community' line at the 
>> top,
>>
>> and the entire Forum opens immediately with no typing and no log-in. You 
>> can
>>
>> read everything & answer posts on subjects you'd not previously selected.
>> On the downside, the PI Forum date in the e-mail is irrelevent; it opens
>> the current page regardless which post you start with. So getting old 
>> posts
>> means going back a page or more if you're interested in the whole thread 
>> and
>>
>> you miss a days post when its current. Their archive search engine is
>> problematic as well. No one's perfect....
>> In the words of Bob Park, a U.S nuclear physicist, 'The Internet is the
>> depository of the World's knowlege. It is also the depository of the 
>> World's
>>
>> B.S. There is no filter except between your ears'. So take ALL forums 
>> posts
>> with appropriate grains of salt... J DeRyke
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