[DeTomaso] GTS Questions

[Julian Kift]

How much of a project are you looking for?
 
There's a '71 (#1998) posted on the PI Forum for $13K, not a GTS but no reason you cannot make it one as you rebuild it!
 
Also a Euro GTS listed by user DeTom on the PI forum, that car is also currently on Ebay.
 
You are a few days late for a '74 with a GT5 kit that sold on Ebay for $10,600...
 
Julian
 
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:36:04 -0800
> From: lashdeep at yahoo.com
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GTS Questions
> 
> That was easy...thank you for the detailed info Mike and Chuck!
> 
> My De Tomaso search continues...any GTS or widebody GT5 "projects" out there 
> that need some TLC?
> 
> Thank you,
> LS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: lashdeep at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 12:30:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] GTS Questions
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/11/11 20 19 13, lashdeep at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> 
> 
> A few dumb questions if you guys don't mind...
> >
> >1. Why do some GTS models have the riveted fiberglass flares while others do
> >not? Where most of these removed for restoration? Or just not equipped from the
> >factory with them?
> >
> >>>All 150 US-market GTS Panteras came with the riveted flares. Most, but not all 
> >>>Euro GTS Panteras came with them too; some were built without them. And of all 
> >>>those cars, some owners subsequently chose to remove them.
> 
> 
> >>2, Do these factory GTS models with the riveted flares truly allow for a wider
> >rear wheel when compared to a standard early narrow bodied car? Or are they 
> just
> >tacked onto the stock fenders thus limited by the same fender clearance as a
> >standard, non GTS car?
> >
> >>>They're just tacked on to the stock fenders. They really have no function 
> >>>whatsoever. European GTS Panteras were available with optional 8-inch front 
> >>>and 10-inch wide rear wheels (as opposed to the standard 7/8 inch setup), but 
> >>>those wheels and tires fit just fine under a stock-bodied Pantera too.
> 
> 
> >>3. How many GTS cars were produced worldwide? I've heard 98 or 138 for US spec
> >GTS cars..what about the rest? How rare are the Euro GTS models here?
> >
> >>>The actual number of US-spec GTS Panteras was 150. There is some confusion 
> >>>about that number, because 98 cars were built for the 49 states, and so the 98 
> >>>figure is often erroneously quoted as being the final total. 52 were built for 
> >>>California. Many years ago, Bill Milburn (who was part of the old De Tomaso 
> >>>registry) gave me a listing of confirmed GTS serial numbers that he had 
> >>>painstakingly accumulated, much of it in the pre-internet age; he had well over 
> >>>100 confirmed cars which blows the 98 number away. 
> >>>
> 
> US-market GTS Panteras have their own discrete Body Service Numbers, which ran 
> sequentially. Standard Panteras had a BSN starting with "5" while US GTS 
> Panteras started with "3" (and European cars built in that timeframe started 
> with "4". The lowest BSN in the registry at the moment is 30005, and the 
> highest is 30150. That fairly conclusively establishes the number of cars at 
> 150.
> 
> Nobody really knows how many European GTS Panteras were built. The De Tomaso 
> family retained all the records, and it would be fascinating to go through them 
> and tally it up. Without a doubt the number is substantially higher than 150, 
> especially in light of the fact that GTS Panteras were built through 1989. 
> Also, one can split hairs and consider a GT5 or a GT5-S to be a GTS also (I 
> personally consider them to be seperate animals).
> 
> I'd say there were several hundred narrowbody Euro-market GTS Panteras 
> produced. They probably outnumbered the total of European pushbutton, Pre-L 
> and L-model Panteras, based on what I've seen on the roads there now.
> 
> A sizeable percentage of the Panteras on the road in Europe these days consists 
> of repatriated American-market cars, particularly in light of the strong 
> European currencies against the dollar in the past few years. It has been MUCH 
> cheaper to buy a Pantera in the USA and bring it home, vice buying a European 
> car. And European cars, by and large, tend to be towards the rough end of the 
> scale when they come up for sale.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
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