[DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend

Bill Lewis lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 9 20:24:40 EST 2011



Darn, Gray, my gripe/poster mantra for the past year has been:  The enemy is not the "other" party, the enemy is the politicians.  As long as they can keep us at each other, we don't focus on them.  They are all crooks, either by commision or ommision.  As long as anyone can buy or persuade them with money - we lose.  A great example is the Tea Party - what has been accomplished in the long run?  Nothing.  So, Pelosi is gone - so what.  The crooks are still making the rules.    ---Bill Lewis




> From: rgg at gregorycook.com
> To: rob at dumoulins.net; pantdino at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:13:37 -0800
> CC: charlesmccall at gmail.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend
> 
> The Philosopher was Alexis De Tocqueville and he had a couple of very prescient predictions about the long term success of American democracy. One was the quote you mentioned, the other (and my favorite) is "American democracy will endure until the day congress discovers it can bribe the electorate with its own money" as you say he may be proven right...
> 
> Gray
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:03 PM
> To: Pantdino
> Cc: charlesmccall at gmail.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend
> 
> That is what US was heading for prior to the last election. Hopefully, it
> has stopped.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > According to Newsweek magazine "Europe is experimenting with democratic
> > socialism"    We'll see if it works.
> >
> > There was a French philosopher who said that democracy will fail because
> > people will keep voting themselves more benefits until the system collapses.
> > He may be proven right.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roland Jaeckel <pantera874 at t-online.de>
> > To: charlesmccall at gmail.com; MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com;
> > Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 1:21 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> > In the eyes of an american we are socialists.
> > n Europe, we are democratic countries !
> > Roland
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > rom: "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com>
> > ent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:16 PM
> > o: <charlesmccall at gmail.com>; <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > ubject: Re: [DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend
> > >
> >  Charlie,
> >
> >  Do you work for an American company?
> >  My impression is that most European countries are socialist welfare states
> >  where everyone gets 6 wks of paid vacation, even if you just started work
> >  last week as a dishwasher. :-)
> >
> >  The sister of our exchange student got preggers w/o husband at 19 and the
> >  German government gave her money to buy furniture for her rent-free apt,
> >  etc, etc.
> >
> >  I imagine Roland has some feelings about that.  :-)
> >
> >  Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> >  To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; pantdino at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> >  Sent: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 11:34 am
> >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend
> >
> >
> >  Life's a bitch. I'll think of them while I'm back at work.
> >
> >  Charles McCall
> >  1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> >  "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
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> >  ttp://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
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> >  De: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> >  nviado el: domingo, 09 de enero de 2011 20:32
> >  ara: charlesmccall at gmail.com; pantdino at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> >  sunto: Re: [DeTomaso] possibility for after-Spa weekend
> >
> >
> >  n a message dated 1/9/11 11 29 43, charlesmccall at gmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> >  The weekend after Spa is the Le Mans 24 hour race. Sounds like there are
> >  uite a few events that weekend
> >
> >  Yes, I think most of the Brits are planning on retiring straight to their
> >  ountry resort hotel north of Le Mans, after the Spa event, and camping out
> >  here for the week leading up to the race. :>)
> >  Mike
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