[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1

[Charles McCall]

Gary - 
I'd second John's recommendation. As long as you are starting from scratch,
it would be a good time to relocate the condensor up front. 

Just to share one experience - I purchased a complete set of hoses from a
Pantera vendor, specifying the type of connection I needed. When they
arrived, the connectors were not compatible. I live in Europe and the vendor
in the US, so the shipping cost to have the connectors changed would have
been significant. I cut the connectors off and had enough length to use 3 of
the 4 hoses - the fourth I bought new here. 

Just one person's experience - if you are going to order something from
really far away, make extra sure that there are no communication issues, and
you might want to consider installing the connectors yourself just to avoid
any kind of problems...

Charles McCall
1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
"Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323

-----Mensaje original-----
De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
nombre de John Taphorn
Enviado el: miércoles, 02 de febrero de 2011 14:40
Para: Asa Jay Laughton; detomaso at realbig.com
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1

Gary

The 508 is a good choice.

As long as you need new hoses and assuming that you are mechanically 
inclined, consider moving the condenser to the front of the radiator.  A 
large efficient condenser that covers the radiator is available from Vintage

Air for not so much.

I also could not more highly recommend the new Aerorquip EZ-clip lines. 
These components allow you to easily assemble the lines by yourself in the 
garage.  Impressive quality.

Good luck and welcome to the Forum

JT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1


> Gary,
>
> Welcome!  :)
>
> I don't  have your answers but wanted to chime in with a welcome message
> anyway.  I do know you should be getting information in the following 
> areas:
>
> - You should be able to use your existing evaporator.
> - You'll most likely need to replace or inspect the expansion valve and
> filter
> - You'll want new hoses and receiver/drier
> - The condenser might be good or you may want to replace it.
> - Opinions vary on the compressor
> - If you're at it and have the money, you might consider a Kirk Evan's
> firewall reduction kit.  Basically a new bracket that relocates the
> alternator and A/C compressor.  Use a modern version of both if you
> wish.  Creates more cabin room.
>
> If you don't see all the info right away, don't worry, give it some
> time.  You can also spend time researching the archives, spend some time
> on http://www.panteraplace.com in the tech section and maybe check out
> the PI forum for answers as well.
>
> Good hunting,
> Asa Jay
> <it's dipping into single digits (F not C) here>
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> &  Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
> On 2/1/2011 20:49, Gary.Williamson at hartmann.info wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm in the process of refitting the air con to my Pantera.  Its 40 
>> degrees
>> C in Sydney today so its becoming an important upgrade if I actually want
>> to drive my car..  When I bought my car the air con had been removed
>> (apparently its a lot cooler in Michigan!) but the previous owner was 
>> kind
>> enough to provide all the bits and the evaporator is still under the 
>> dash.
>>   What are the must do's to make sure this system works?  From my 
>> research
>> I see a Sanden 508 compressor and adaptor plate is a must but can I live
>> with the condensor and evaporator as standard? I've also read that a
>> stronger fan would help but not too sure if this is a must do.
>>
>> With the current strong Aussie dollar I plan to purchase an R134 hose kit
>> from one of the US based suppliers as I figure these will be more
>> convenient to fit myself - does anyone have any particular preference or
>> is the quality of hoses the same across the market?
>>
>> This is my first post - I certainly enjoy reading the mails that come in
>> each morning when I get to the office and have learned quite a bit
>> already.  Thanks for the wealth of info.  cheers  Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> 01/02/2011 11:00 PM
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>>     2.  Auction results (Larry Finch)
>>     3. Re: Auction results (michael at michaelshortt.com)
>>     4. Re: Auction results (tmshinro at aol.com)
>>     5. Re: Auction results (doug351c)
>>     6. Re: Auction results (Sean Korb)
>>     7. Re: Auction results (Thomas Tornblom)
>>     8. Happy Birthday (Larry - Ohio Time Corp)
>>     9. Happy Birthday (Garth Rodericks)
>>    10. Looking for car cover - on ebay! (Garth Rodericks)
>>    11. Re: Happy Birthday (Curt Hall)
>>    12. Re: Looking for car cover - on ebay! (Peter Kovacs)
>>    13. Re: Auction results (Daniel C Jones)
>>    14. Re: Looking for car cover - on ebay! (Erik Anderson)
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>>    16. Re: DB Starters (Mike Murray)
>>    17.  DB Starters (B. Seib)
>>    18. Re: Auction results (Will Kooiman)
>>    19.   DB Starters (John Buckman)
>>    20.  DB Starters (B. Seib)
>>    21. Re: ? Auction results (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
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>>    23. Re: Auction results (doug351c)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:09:30 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: rfmccall at comcast.net
>> Subject: [DeTomaso]  Auction results
>> To: detomaso<detomaso at list.realbig.com>
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>> I watched the coverage last night. I could have sworn that kit sold for
>> $45,000.
>>
>> Not $40,000.
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>>
>> Ron
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:11:48 -0500
>> From: Larry Finch<fresnofinches at aol.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso]  Auction results
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
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>> That's definitely a 351C, with an Edelbrock Torker manifold....
>> -------------------
>>
>> Mike, are you referring to the auction car, red in color, with the Ford
>> blue engine block and heads?
>>
>>
>>   If that is a Cleveland - link to the photo here:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/auction-Torker
>>
>> Then where is the oil sender boss at the rear of the block?
>>
>> The intake is for a Windsor.
>>
>> Edelbrock Torker photos here:
>>
>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=28719
>>
>> Larry - not an engine geek, but I know when something doesn't jive
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:05:30 -0500
>> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com"<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Auction results
>> To: Larry Finch<fresnofinches at aol.com>
>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
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>> It's simpler thatn all that, simply count the valve cover bolts, a
>> Cleveland
>> had 8, a Windsor has 6,
>>
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Larry Finch<fresnofinches at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's definitely a 351C, with an Edelbrock Torker manifold....
>>> -------------------
>>>
>>> Mike, are you referring to the auction car, red in color, with the Ford
>>> blue engine block and heads?
>>>
>>>
>>>   If that is a Cleveland - link to the photo here:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/auction-Torker
>>>
>>> Then where is the oil sender boss at the rear of the block?
>>>
>>> The intake is for a Windsor.
>>>
>>> Edelbrock Torker photos here:
>>>
>>> http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=28719
>>>
>>> Larry - not an engine geek, but I know when something doesn't jive
>>>
>>>
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