[DeTomaso] Driveshaft bolts--the final answer
thomas
thomas at hax.se
Thu Dec 29 16:00:38 EST 2011
I have a huge bag of bolts from Aircraft Spruce since I switched to CV-joints and initially bought the wrong length bolts, and I just compared them to my stock bolts, and I get them both to .437", measured both with a digital caliper and an old micrometer. I get no repeatable difference between the bolts.
Thomas
29 dec 2011 kl. 21:11 skrev MikeLDrew at aol.com:
> Hi guys,
>
> Got this from a well-known auto engineer and Pantera owner who chooses to
> remain anonymous, but said I could repost this for him:
>
> ====
>
> Mike,
> So I get an e-mail from a P-car owner here in Detroit, that asks me what is
> my take on the half shaft bolt thread on the forum. I tell him I don't read
> the forum but for him I would look at the conversation.
>
> So - which way do the bolts go in at the ZF. Nuts to the inside or nuts to
> the outside. ???
>
> Some people got the answer right, but nobody got the reason. NOBODY.
>
> The bolts should go in with the nuts to the inside. Reason - - the counter
> bore in the companion flange on the ZF is slightly smaller than that of the
> counter bore in the half shaft. Just enough that the tips of the hex dig
> into the radius of that counter bore. When the bolt is installed with the nut
> to the inside, the counter bore in the half shaft flange is just large enough
> to clear. So - you ask "what about the nut? Won't its hex tip dig in the
> same? After all - it is also a 5.8" hex." Yes EXCEPT the SPECIAL lock
> washers that go on that side elevate the nut enough to clear the counter bore.
> These are not standard lock washers. They have a much smaller diameter and
> whole lot more thickness.
>
> Your answer sir. :-))))
>
> Of course, the only sample of this phenomenon that I have to work with is
> MY car. As such, this is what I base my evaluation on. Other peoples (yours)
> may be different. If you look closely, (again at least on mine) the hex tips
> will dig into the radius of the counter bore on the ZF flange and the axle
> companion flange. Not only does it create a stress riser, but it inhibits
> the tensile load from being distributed in a uniform fashion over the flange
> seat. On the other side you really should use the designated lock washer. It
> really does elevate the nut so its hex tips are clear of the counter bore.
> Yes - you should use nylock nuts. Note: A.N. bolts are equivalent to grade 5.
> Ductile - not hard. They take shear loads without breaking. (well - some
> people can break an anvil) :-)))) At these harnesses they are also very good
> at tensile loads. I suspect NOBODY has actually torqued their nut/bolt. I
> would estimate they could take 80-100 ft/lb no problem. I did it once before a
> long road trip, to 70. Not easy to get to. I probably did not get it exact.
>
> Also - A.N. bolts are (by design) slightly smaller than the designated hole
> size. i.e. 7/16 = .4375" The bolt shanks are .4330 to .4370. You ~could~
> sort through a bin of them and probably find the required number of 'high
> end' sized bolt. IMHO - not worth the time.
>
> http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/ra/an.html For reference.
>
> ====
>
> So, there you go!
>
> Mike
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