[DeTomaso] Mangusta Legacy: Your Thoughts???
JEFFREY COBB
zumzum at cox.net
Sun Dec 25 21:14:00 EST 2011
Bill,
The two lift beam housings will be painted white and some sort of white canvas which will unfurl from spring loaded rollers from the top and bottom at the wheel pick up plates so the pickups seem to glide through the verticle wall. The lift units are at both right wheels with of course with extentions to the left wheels so I can get out on the left. My range of lift up will go up to seven or so feet. A 98" wheelbase format +- 6" is planned as that is very close to my other loves; black Espada-104", white 250 sl-94", red Bora-102", red Mangusta-98", red and yellows Ghiblis-100" and a blue Formula 6000 99" race car. These beauties will take turns as art work. Am also in the invention phase of doing a patent for design security.
Jeff
Jeff Cobb
Cell 225-907-4514
Jeff Cobb Auto Works
1316 South Acadian Thruway
Baton Rouge
Louisiana, 70806
www.liveoakconcours.org
Concours, April 13-15, 2012
Text 225-907-4514
Work 225-343-7525
Fax 225-343-7550
zumzum at cox.net
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On Dec 25, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Bill Lewis wrote:
> Wow, Jeff, great idea. So, the lift will be on the SIDE of the Goose, not on the end? I'm assuming some type of arm that protrudes from the wall - how will you best try to hide the slot that the arm has to go up and down in?
> <<<<<<< If you lift it too high, then the angle will be showing too much of the underside of the car, and obviously you want the topside showing. Solution: tricky lighting, or mannequin mechanics. ----Bill
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>> From: zumzum at cox.net
>> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:24:42 -0600
>> To: spkorb at gmail.com
>> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mangusta Legacy: Your Thoughts???
>>
>> A good thread.
>>
>> The Mangusta employs many sensual shapes mixed with aggressive muscle. Views change from an in your face animal to the
>> seductive temptress to the planar frontal view then back to pure muscle. The new shape is too Lambo like with a Mangusta nose and some similar side proportions. No doubt the Lancia Stratos was also in the artist mind. A nice design but so difficult to compete with the original and the last 45 plus years of a design that has stood the test of time.
>>
>> The Mangusta was one of the first beautiful cars employing beauty, grace, static speed and being timeless in design in the exploding early 60's. The Ferrari crisis of 1961 no doubt allowed so much new artistic expression to flourish as evident with the likes of the Grifo, Lusso, Cistialia, Ghibli, 250GTO, Serenissima, ATS, E Type, 350/400GT, Miura and Alfas. I feel honored to have the ability to keep such a beautiful automotive design in my sights and under my foot. A true gift.
>> I am designing and building my new home "man cave". The garage will feature an in the concrete wall car lift with a floor divits 1/4 circle metal holders welded on to the lift arms so the tires will stay in normal parked relative position. So when the Mangusta or ? is driven parallel to the wall and parked. The non visible in wall lift will pick the car up to a viewing level up to seven feet. The car then becomes art work on a white and well light background seen through a 40' wide glass wall from the home or courtyard. In effect the car/art will be floating on this white wall.
>> I am glad these new designs flourish, but hard to beat the goose.
>> Jeff
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>>
>> Jeff Cobb
>> Cell 225-907-4514
>>
>> Jeff Cobb Auto Works
>> 1316 South Acadian Thruway
>> Baton Rouge
>> Louisiana, 70806
>>
>> www.liveoakconcours.org
>> Concours, April 13-15, 2012
>>
>> Text 225-907-4514
>> Work 225-343-7525
>> Fax 225-343-7550
>> zumzum at cox.net
>> jeffcobb1 at me.com
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
>>
>>> I think the hour glass shape would be fine, but it contributes to the
>>> busyness of the shape. It really looks like the designer god bored
>>> and put a bunch of doo-dads on there. The beauty of the Mangusta and
>>> to some extent the Pantera is the freedom, discipline and courage to
>>> elicit a beautiful single shape with few details that are subtle but
>>> contribute to the overall dramatic display. The grill treatment is
>>> really hot, but gets really lost below the waistline. If it was
>>> cleaned up I think it would be almost as nice as the original. I also
>>> really like the Pantera concept. Very clean approach.
>>>
>>> sean
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:19 PM, doug sedon <sedond at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> from the front and rear, the car looks great, but, from the side, while it looks nice, it is ruined by the hour-glass shape, and needs to be in one plane between the wheels - as others have said, it looks like a lambo, from this angle. the mangusta's appeal is its clean straight lines when wiewed from the side. and, in the article, it states:
>>>>
>>>> "The car had a distinctive silhouette with a height of just 1,100 mm, and featured a very large windscreen, gullwing doors, and an essential
>>>> interior."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i think they mistook the doors for the hood. the concept really needs to lose those gull-wing door abominations. regular doors, please. do a gullwing hood, if you want... (also lose rising the rear wing.)
>>>>
>>>> all that said, i much prefer the pantera concept shown on the website prowided by mr zeedick:
>>>> http://www.firstsignal.de/?page_id=307&album=2&gallery=11
>>>>
>>>> i want one!
>>>>
>>>> holly hippodaze to all!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
>>> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
>>> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
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