[DeTomaso] made in China

[gow2 at rc-tech.net]

The loan payments for trillions we have borrowed form China for stimulus
and government expansion buys a lot of Chinese military hardware.



> For those that are comfortable with the idea of the global economy, I
> would
> like to point to the ruins of the Roman Empire and the thousand years of
> darkness that followed its fall.
>
> Growing up with those ruins within sight leaves a lasting impression of
> what history means.
>
> Same policy will yield a similar outcome.
>
> China is big, resourceful and merciless. Do not let yourselves be lulled
> into a sense of inevitability, security and wishful thinking.
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Kirby Schrader
> <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> For the 'older' folks among us, I'm sure we all remember the
>> statements where 'eEverything is from Japan these days!' and 'All
>> things from Japan are crap!' statements? I know I do.
>> They use to rate things based on transistor quantity! A 12 transistor
>> radio was better than a 6 transistor radio!
>>
>> Yet, if I ask my son, he will tell you that really good stuff comes
>> from Japan. He never saw the cheap crap that came from Japan in the
>> early stages of their manufacturing development.
>>
>> For example, Korea has gone through the same type of manufacturing
>> development along with many other countries over the last 50 years.
>>
>> I am not 'sticking up for China', but consider the following:
>>
>>  - Not buying stuff made in China will certainly restrict your choices.
>>  - Cost of goods from China is certainly lower due to the lower labor
>> costs
>>  - We live in a global economy, like it or not
>>  - Even 'Made in the USA may mean 'Assembled in the USA'. Some people
>> here aren't too picky about what that means.
>>  - Have anything you call a computer on your desk/in your lap/in your
>> pocket? I think you will find they are all made in China or have had
>> components from all over the world which have been assembled in China
>> or Taiwan or Thailand or (insert country here). Hard disks from
>> Singapore, hard disks from Thailand.
>>  - Have an Apple product? They at least tell you 'Designed in
>> California', 'Made in China'. Many of the components come from Korea
>> and Taiwan.
>>  - You will start to see (if you haven't already) many things made in
>> India. Why? Labor costs. Labor costs are going up in China.
>>  - Good quality goods are made in China, too. It is up to the company
>> having it made there to define the quality of the materials and the
>> quality of the assembly/build. And then... you pay more for the extra
>> quality going into it, but the labor costs are still lower than here
>> or Europe.
>>  - China, Korea and Japan are all getting a very large percentage of
>> their raw material (iron ore, etc.) from Australia.
>>
>> I would think that you'd be hard pressed to find an item where you can
>> prove definitively that from material to final product it is 'Made in
>> the USA'.
>>
>> I will repeat myself... It's all about the global economy we live in,
>> like it or not.
>>
>> Damn.... my soap box just disappeared!
>>
>> OH, well....
>> Later,
>> Kirby
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:29, Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > My old Maseratis have NO parts made in China. They do not run, but I
>> > proudly stand by them (in a puddle of oil).
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 12/15/11 8 38 32, timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I once heard that almost all the cam blanks come from China.  Is
>> that
>> >> > true?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I don't know about cams, but almost all crank castings and forgings
>> begin
>> >> life in China.   The quality (and price) of the finished product is
>> >> normally
>> >> down to whether the finish-machining is conducted there, or here.
>> >>
>> >> Here is better...
>> >>
>> >> Mike
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