[DeTomaso] Alignment Specs.....revisited

[Rob Dumoulin]

Uhhh, yes. I transposed the labels.  Camber is -0.1 to 0.1 and Caster is 2.3
to 3.3.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com> wrote:

> Those specs look odd. Are you sure you don't have the front camber and
> caster numbers mixed up? 2-3deg of positive caster and -01 camber would make
> much more sense.  If you'll call Pantera Performance center and tell them
> what suspension set up you have they'll give you their recommended specs
> over the phone.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Gray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On Behalf Of Tomas Gunnarsson
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:54 PM
> To: Rob Dumoulin
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alignment Specs.....revisited
>
> Have them get rid of the positive camber too.
>
> Tomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of cengles at cox.net
> Sent: den 4 augusti 2011 17:06
> To: Rob Dumoulin
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alignment Specs.....revisited
>
>
> Dear Rob,
>
> Me thinks that you have some problems. The tendency to wander back and
> forth at speed is disconcerting. Based on the specs that you say your
> alignment shop used to set up the car, the aligment may be correct to their
> specs, but I think that their reference is *way* off.
> If I read it correctly, they say you should have a front caster from -0.1
> to
> +0.1. If so that itself could be the biggest part of your current problems.
> Panteras need all the *positive* caster that they can get and what they
> have set up is laughably puny. The stock front end can give at least a
> positive full degree and maybe two. You should have as much as can be set.
> The other specs, I can't speak for. I am away from my alignment specs.
> If you're using the stock suspension with spacers plus stock bushings and
> you're using stock wheels and appropriate tires, then a whole new wonderful
> world of improved ride and handling await you when you upgrade to the modern
> package of modified poly bushings for more caster; new shocks&springs and
> modern wheels with modern high performance tires. Of course, it does have a
> cost, but try not to think about it.
> I can send you my alignment specs, but I don't think they would necessarily
> translate correctly to your set up.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
> ---- Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> > This topic seems to occur often, but looking through the archives I
> > cannot find a clear winner for what specs should be. The consensus
> > always seems
> to
> > be that it depends. I finally got #1488 back where it can legally
> > drive on the street and am ready to remove my stock spring spacers.
> > When I do, I'll get an alignment and roll the fenders if need be to
> > fit the 335 35 17 rear tires and 225 45 17 fronts. I can't find my
> > last alignment sheet but the car currently is very stiff to steer at
> > slow speeds and likes to wander left/right at high speeds. Installing
> > a tuneable suspension is in the cards, just not right now. What should
> > I shoot for with my stock
> suspension
> > until the day of suspension upgrades arrives.
> >
> > My alignment shop has these setting in their machine, which he used
> > last time he aligned the car
> >
> > Front Caster -0.1 to 0.1 Rear Caster
> > Camber 2.3 to 3.3 Camber -0.6 to -0.4
> > Toe 0.09 to 0.16 Toe 0.13 to 0.19
> >
> > On behalf of my car, thanks,
> >
> > Rob
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