[DeTomaso] DMV California - Temporary Moving Permit questions!

[Will Kooiman]

Our hybrid burns gas just like any other car, so we are paying gas tax.

We also pay tax in the PITA from driving a car that's slower than my
ex-wife.  You don't benefit from the tax, but it hurts just the same.

You should also research where the fed gas tax goes.  It used to go to the
feds who would give it back to states to build and maintain roads.  Bush
changed that after 9/11.  I believe it is mostly going to homeland security.
The feds won't fund new roads anymore until there's a feasibility study on
the road being a toll road.  My point is the fed gas tax is only partly
responsible for bad roads.

You could argue that cars getting better MPG (electric/hybrid/compact) pay
their fair share by reducing our dependency on oil.

You could also argue that any car that drives on a toll road pays their
share, regardless of how it is motorvated.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Korb
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:11 AM
To: larry at ohiotimecorp.com
Cc: Tomas Gunnarsson; panteralist
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV California - Temporary Moving Permit questions!

In most states there is a flat fee based on the estimated number of
miles you will drive your electric car.  For example, in North
Carolina I would expect to drive 7,000 miles on a 20 mile range
electric car that I expected to drive every day.  I would expect to
pay about $200.00 for the privilege (48 cents a gallon at 20 mpg
gasoline).

Oregon has introduced legislation for a flat tax of $100.00 road tax
for all electric vehicles.

Biodiesel users and natural gas as well as electrics are fined heavily
if it is discovered that they have not paid their road tax (thousands
of dollars).

This is information for the hobbyist, but I believe hybrids are
exempt.  Not sure about more interesting new cars such as the Leaf
that can get an effective 80 mile range or the Tesla that can go over
200 miles at a crack.  I suspect it still depends on your estimate,
verified by odometer readings.

sean

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM,  <larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> I pay my road tax each time I fill up my tank for the right to drive on
the bad roads we have. How do the people
> that plug in there electric cars out there pay the weekly road tax like I
do?
>
>
> Larry (just say no) - Cleveland
>
>
>
>
> On Fri Apr 29 16:48 , "Tomas Gunnarsson"  sent:
>
>>Compare it to road tax. You can't drive a car on the road unless road tax
>>AND insurance are paid. Surely the Norwegian road directorate doesn't
insure
>>vehicles, it only taxes them for their expected road use.
>>
>>Tomas
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>[detomaso-bounces at realbig.com','','','')">detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
Behalf Of Bjoern Flesland
>>Sent: den 29 april 2011 22:42
>>To: panteralist
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV California - Temporary Moving Permit
>>questions!
>>
>>
>>I don't understand how the CA DMV can issue a moving permit without
>>including liability insurance!!!
>>That means you can actually drive the vehicle on the road witout any
>>coverage.
>>So what are you actually paying the temp. fee for then?
>>Cheers Bjoern
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Peter Kovacs
>>peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>>   .... and be absolutely sure not to get cited touching the road in
>>> California with a 'non op' status. If you do, reg and penalties will be
>>> due for the entire non op period. Trailer, flatbed or temp permit became
>>> that much more important.
>>>
>>> *Peter Kovacs*
>>> *209 345-6708 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            209 345-6708
>>>  end_of_the_skype_highlighting *
>>> *209 436-2000 fx*
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Bjoern Flesland bflesland at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* panteralist DeTomaso at realbig.com>
>>> *Sent:* Fri, April 29, 2011 12:11:43 AM
>>> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] DMV California - Temporary Moving Permit
questions!
>>>
>>> I need to move car from NV to CA.
>>> It is on none op status, titled/registered in California.
>>> Can someone familiar with CA DMV tell me if a One Day Moving Permit or a
>>> One
>>> Way Moving Permit holds any liability insurance?
>>>
>>> How much does the temporary moving permit and tag/sticker cost?
>>> Can I get from AAA (no waiting) or do I have to go to the DMV (much
>>> waiting)?
>>> Do I need to get it in person?
>>> Or can I send someone else?
>>>
>>> Or can I get a moving permit from DMV Nevada instead?
>>> Do they issue temp. moving permits for vehicles registered/titled out of
>>> state?
>>>
>>> What kind of paperwork (if any) is needed to bring to DMV to get a temp.
>>> moving permit?
>>>
>>> Any help and info much appreciated.
>>> Cheers Bjoern
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