[DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow Kalifornians.

Fri Apr 29 15:17:00 EDT 2011

Interesting reading.
Is a historic vehicle registered in Kalifornia always exempt from the
bi-annual smog check?
Can all cars over 25 years be registered as historic vehicles?
Cheers Bjoern

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:59 PM, doug351c <doug351c at gmail.com> wrote:

> Asa Jay,
>
> Here's what the Washington State DMV stated when I converted my Pantera to
> collector plates a few years ago:
>
> Washington Historic "Collector Car" License Plates:  $30 for currently
> licensed vehicles.  You get 1 plate for the back only!.  You must turn in
> your old plates, bring in the title, and have proof of identity (drivers
> license).  They provide you a white paper plate until your new one arrives
> (takes about 2 weeks).  Info is available at
> http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/spcollector.html.  You are not
> exempt from the emissions laws, but you are exempt from emissions testing.
> Historic plate cost is a one-time $42.50 fee.  Vehicle use must be for
> "enjoyment purposes", no fee passengers allowed, with no mileage
> limitations.
> Vehicles must be   with either collector vehicle license plates or a
> Washington license plate manufactured for use in the same year as the
> vehicle manufacture date.
>
> Antique vehicles must be:
> * At least 30 years old
> * Owned and operated as collector vehicle
> * Capable of operating on the highway.
>
> Collector vehicles may be driven:
> * To and from auto shows, circuses, parades, displays, special excursions,
> antique car club meetings
> * For testing purposes
> * For pleasure of others without compensation.
>
> Collector vehicles may not be used for:
> * Commercial purposes or to carry a load, or
> * Regular transportation in the manner of a fully licensed vehicle.
>
> Doug Braun
> blue 73L #5505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:22 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow
> Kalifornians.
>
>
> In Washington (the one next to Idaho), you can get "Historic Vehicle"
> plates for anything over 25 years old as I recall.  A nice 1968
> Mustang parked outside on my way home has historic plates on it.  That
> would be 40 years old plus, but I do think it's 25 years to be
> eligible.  (I'm too lazy to check actually, but have been told my 1973
> Pantera qualifies).
>
> And it's a permanent registration requiring no front plate.  Bonus!
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Art Stephens <artstephens at verizon.net>:
>
> > I remember when I went in to register my Pantera as a historical vehicle,
> I
> > was thinking to myself how do they know if it is or not? It seemed to me
> I
> > might have been able to register a 1972 bug as a historical vehicle? My
> > understanding was that the car was supposed to have historical
> > significance/small production numbers? I don't remember seeing any clear
> > definition as to what a historical vehicle was. So, you might be able to
> > register any pre 1976 vehicle as historic?
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Kovacs" <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com>; <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; <MACHWIL at aol.com
> >;
> > <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow
> Kalifornians.
> >
> >
> >> Regular Reg currently. I haven't been able to locate the HV parameters
> >> yet. It
> >> wasn't easily locatable on the DMV site. I was looking then 'life'
> >> happened. You
> >> you have info on it?
> >>
> >> Peter Kovacs
> >> 209 345-6708
> >> 209 436-2000 fx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> >> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; MACHWIL at aol.com; peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net;
> >> detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 3:16:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow
> Kalifornians.
> >>
> >>
> >> Is the car registered as an Historic Vehicle, or with regular
> >> registration?
> >> You might try switching it to HV if it is not already and see if that
> gets
> >> the
> >> Man off your back
> >>
> >> Jim Oddie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> >> To: MACHWIL at aol.com; peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:35 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow
> Kalifornians.
> >>
> >>
> >>  In a message dated 4/28/11 11 26 46, MACHWIL at aol.com writes:      >
> >
> I
> >> think you are in California. If that is correct your Vega was smog   >
> >> exempt  >
> >> at the time the ticket was issued. That smog law changed years ago and I
> >>  >
> >> believe it extends down to cars built before Dec. 31, 1975. I know my
> '73
> >>  >
> >> Pantera is exempt.  >     Wrongo, Bud!    Your Pantera is exempt from
> >> periodic
> >> inspection.   That is not the same as   being exempt from meeting the
> >> requirements that were in place on the day it   was sold.   At any time,
> a
> >> cop
> >> with an attitude can write you a ticket for   failing to pass his
> >> arbitrary
> >> visual inspection, and then you are forced into   Referee Hell where you
> >> have to
> >> demonstrate to a bureaucrat that your car   does, in fact, possess all
> the
> >> required pollution control equipment that was   installed on the day it
> >> was
> >> first sold.    That's the situation Peter is in now.    The Pantera's
> smog
> >> requirements were fairly basic; a functioning PCV system   is pretty
> much
> >> all
> >> that was there (i.e. no smog pumps, air injection   systems etc.).   But
> >> if you
> >> are running open breathers on your valve covers, you     are failing,
> and
> >> a cop
> >> can legitimately write you a ticket.    Just another good reason to keep
> a
> >> functional PCV system in place....    Mike
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