[DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow Kalifornians.

[Art Stephens]

I bought my second Pantera in 2008, in California where I live. I went to 
the DMV to register the car as a historical vehicle. I had done my homework, 
reading all the info on their website. When I got to the desk where you 
start the process, the guy said something to the effect, "you can't register 
the car as a historical vehicle since it is not already registered as a 
historical vehicle, WTF, are you FRIGGIN kidding me? !!!!!!!! So you're 
telling me the car had to be produced as a historical vehicle, what a 
friggin weenie. I made him keenly aware that I was not at all happy, so he 
says he will let me talk the guy at the counter next to him who was supposed 
to be the expert. The second guy said exactly the same FUC_ing thing!!! They 
could not have been more arrogant! I guess they figured they worked at the 
DMV so they had to know the vehicle code word for word, I KNEW they were 
dead friggin wrong so I asked to speak to their supervisor. So by now I am 
hot. I talk to their female supervisor who could not have been nicer, 180 
degrees opposite to those two schmoes. She didn't know the answer but she 
dug into it until she found the info and saw that I was dead right. She left 
again and was gone for a few minutes. She came back and told me that she had 
talked to said schmoes, and tuned them up good. I got the impression they 
had their tails between their legs. LOL. Anyway, I got those idiots 
straightened out. It paid to know the law by looking it up. Those guys were 
trying to send me home KNOWING that they were correct. Did I mention that 
they were SCHMOES?

Art



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Stephens" <artstephens at verizon.net>
To: "Peter Kovacs" <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow Kalifornians.


> Hello Peter,
> Here is a thought. Take the car off the road, change registration to PNO
> (Planned Non Operation). When you go to get the car registered in the
> future, I believe, you will need to go to the for a safety check. I'm
> thinking that they don't even look under the hood since that is not safety
> related? The car is re-registered and you are good to go? I believe the
> entire California vehicle code is available on the internet. I would say 
> it
> is worth looking into.
>
> Good Luck,
> Art
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Kovacs" <peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:39 PM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] DMV registration question for fellow Kalifornians.
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I took my 72 Vega out for a drive a couple of Sundays ago. Not too much 
>> of
>> this
>> car is still 72 Vega and it's primarily used for charity events, car 
>> shows
>> and
>> every few years a trip to the drags. Although it hasn't been my daily
>> driver for
>> about 20 years, it has been registered and insured. A motorcycle officer
>> in a
>> speed trap I was well aware of (but not that day evidently) pulled me 
>> over
>> and
>> issue a ticket. He radio'd another officer who had been through the 'smog
>> course' who asked that I open the hood. The educated officer said as a 72
>> it
>> only needed the pcv valve and with a closed system and not the breather
>> cap on
>> the valve cover but recommended against the citation for it. He didn't
>> notice
>> the PCV valve on the other valve cover. The 'uneducated' officer ignored
>> his
>> recommendation and cited me for the smog violation sending me to a
>> referee.
>>
>>
>> I went to the referee today who seemed not to know what to do with a 72.
>> He made
>> a phone call to a manager and came back with change the manifold, carb,
>> headers,
>> gas tank, add a smog pump, thermostatic air filter housing and put it on
>> the
>> dyno. Huh??? I declined the inspection but they took pictures of the car
>> and sent them to Sac. I assume this is so they can reconcile my data with
>> the
>> street racers they have on video.
>>
>> So...options? What are the requirements and benefits for a historical
>> vehicle?
>> Is there a reasonably inexpensive way to fight the citation? Proof of
>> correction
>> would be $8.25. Not correcting it and just paying it would be just under
>> $500
>> but would also leave me open to the 'habitual' violator status in the
>> future.
>> Hmmmm
>>
>> I could pay the fine and pull the plates saving insurance and 
>> registration
>> costs
>> in the future and just trailer the car to the events but I would likely
>> just not
>> participate in the events.
>>
>>
>> There must be a better way and I'm sure someone in this group knows it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> Peter Kovacs
>> 209 345-6708
>> 209 436-2000 fx
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