[DeTomaso] Borla mufflers

[Will Demelo]

It's not working in Greece and Portugal.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Roland Jaeckel
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:31 PM
To: Curt Hall ; Ken Green ; detomaso at realbig.com ; Larry Finch
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers

No, the idea is a growing community. Many shoulders can carry others. Like a 
pyramide.
That was the idea and it worked basicly for more than 100 years in Europe.


From: Curt Hall
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:23 PM
To: Ken Green ; detomaso at realbig.com ; Larry Finch ; Roland Jaeckel
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers


      So the idea is...have 14 kids so the can all work and pay for Mom and 
Dad? The Mom and Dad that only has 1 kid is screwed?

      --- On Fri, 4/15/11, Roland Jaeckel <pantera874 at t-online.de> wrote:


        From: Roland Jaeckel <pantera874 at t-online.de>
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers
        To: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso at realbig.com, "Larry 
Finch" <fresnofinches at aol.com>
        Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 11:56 AM


        Here in Germany it is called the "generation contract".
        If you think, you have to get , what you paid in, you go wrong.
        The money, you pay in is for the genaration before you (your 
parents).
        Your kids will have to pay for you.
        So, if you have only one kid, to pay in, how this contract can work?
        That is the math on a social system.
        Anything else is just a cheap insurance and will bring you nothing.

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        From: "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
        Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:30 PM
        To: <detomaso at realbig.com>; "Larry Finch" <fresnofinches at aol.com>
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers

        > Facts:
        >
        > Lyndon Johnson stole the social security $s to fund the Great 
Society.
        >
        > Jimmy Carter gave Social Security benefits to people who never 
paid into
        > it.
        >
        > Based on a 5% interest rate, the money taken (effectively at gun 
point)
        > from me by the federal government would be about a million $s when 
I'm 67.
        > I'll be lucky to get half of that back.  I assume most of us are 
in the
        > same situation (just do the math).
        >
        > I don't see any sane argument for letting the crooks and idiots 
who have
        > pissed away all this money remain in control of social security.
        >
        > Ken
        >
        >
        > --- On Fri, 4/15/11, Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:
        >
        >
        > From: Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
        > Subject: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers
        > To: detomaso at realbig.com
        > Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 11:17 AM
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > I'm failing to find the Pantera content in the recent posts to 
this
        > thread.
        >
        > But since I didn't start it...
        >
        > Something you pay for all your life - like SS and Medicare, is not
        > an"entitlement"
        >
        > It is an earned, and paid for, benefit.
        >
        > But all the Republicans and their Wall Street buddies are doing 
their best
        > to reshape
        > the public's perception of these earned benefits as being some 
evil,
        > Commie/Socialist
        > 'entitlement' scheme and they are doing this for one reason and 
one reason
        > only -
        >
        > They want to remove government management of these programs and 
shift them
        > into
        > the private sector. There is a LOT of potential money to make 
mamnaging
        > those programs,
        > and as we all should know by now, there can never be too much 
money in
        > their already
        > bulging-at-the-seams bonus/performance/stock option/CEO pockets.
        >
        > So the rich can get richer, and the rest of us....well, you know 
the drill
        > by now.
        >
        > But the spin continues, the buzzword management machine is in full 
swing,
        > and the
        > poor working stiffs of this country continue to be duped into 
screaming
        > "TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY" at any mention of increased taxes, when in 
reality
        > not many
        > of them are even CLOSE to the upper ranges for which tax increases 
are
        > being proposed.
        >
        > I can't think of any other country where the working poor are so 
involved
        > and vocal in thinking their
        > financial health will somehow be improved by helping the already
        > filthy-rich add more to their portfolios.
        >
        > My 2¢ comment on - "Borla mufflers"
        >
        > Larry - remember, I didn't start this one....  ;-)
        >
        >
        >
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