[DeTomaso] Borla mufflers

Thu Apr 14 21:54:36 EDT 2011

Talking to a guy in the FBO business today (takes care of general 
aviation and corporate airplanes that come it). They are having a work 
force problem. As an example,

An airplane taxi's in to the ramp, no one flags it in to park. He goes 
into the line shack to find out why the line guy did not meet the 
airplane. The line man, in his 30's, sitting at the desk playing a 
portable N-Tendo game. The owner told the guy there is an airplane on 
the ramp. The guy said "Roger, I'll get out there when I finish this 
game". He was told, no need, just pick up your stuff and go home. When 
he hires replacements, they are seldom better!

Gary

Kirby Schrader wrote:
> I find it worse than that... the 'employees' in the store can't do anything
> without the 'year, make and model', but then don't want to look for anything
> 'different' beyond that. That would mean they'd have to 'work' a little.
>
> I needed an upper radiator hose for my Lightning.
> I give him the year, make and model.
> 2001 Ford Lightning with a supercharged 5.4.
> 'Oh, that's just an F150'
> No, it's not. It's a Lightning. It's different.
> 'No, those F150's are all the same!'
> No, it's different. A lot different.
> He brings out a radiator hose and I tell him that won't fit.
> 'Sure it will!'
> Come with me.
> 'Damn! It's got a supercharger on it!'
> Yes, you idiot. It's a Lightning. It's not an F150.
> Well, we don't have that then...
> Thanks.
> I've never been back... and told the manager I wouldn't be back, but they
> didn't seem to care.
>
> Oh, well... my local Ford dealer likes me and always gets the right thing.
> Worth the slightly higher cost, I think.
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:10, GW <gow2 at rc-tech.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> That seems to be an industry wide problem.
>>
>> I worked with local autoparts store with some specific questions.
>> Several said "Well if you don't have a part number we can't help".
>> Eventually I turned to online companies. Local stores wonder why online
>> business is so good and theirs is not.
>>
>> Some online stores I got no help from. Others like Howe, RideTech, they
>> work your problem with you. For that my business goes there first. For
>> that I will repeat their names in thanks.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> Dave McManus wrote:
>>     
>>> I also emailed them more than a week ago & did not receive an answer. So
>>> much for their "customer no service". Why provide an email address if you
>>> don't respond? Tells you what you can look forward to.
>>>
>>> IndyDave
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Curt Hall [mailto:cuvee at sbcglobal.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:22 PM
>>> To: Asa Jay Laughton; Dave Londry
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers
>>>
>>> I sent OBX Muffler a email over a week ago! No answer? I also went on
>>>       
>> line
>>     
>>> and read some comments from people that had them on there cars...the
>>> comments were not so go? Most said, they were good at first, then after
>>> awhile they said, the packing blew out and they go LOUD? But they look
>>>       
>> good.
>>     
>>> Your mileage may very? Each to they there own.
>>> Good Luck
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers
>>> To: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
>>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 5:49 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Asa Jay,
>>> When you get it all sorted out, I'd really like a set of 2 1/2" inlet
>>> mufflers
>>> with dual outlets at least 1 3/4" in diameter so they're not just
>>> restrictors.
>>> Of course I'd like them to be as quiet/load as my ANSAs, so I don't want
>>> toooo much.
>>> thanks for the free lift.
>>> dave
>>>
>>> PS
>>> I went all through that vendor's site and through the OBX site and
>>> couldn't find the throat diameter of the oulets.
>>> I did leave a question, but I don't have any idea about the loudness and
>>> the Borla reviews are mixed at best.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/13/2011 4:40 PM, wkooiman at earthlink.net wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I had Borla XR-1s and 3" pipes for quite a while.  They were louder than
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> stock, but not as loud as Mind Trains (my opinion).  I liked them a lot.
>>>
>>>       
>>>> The XR-1s fit the Pantera really well.  They do not have the original
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> style of 2 tips per muffler, but they look great with a slash cut
>>>       
>> extension.
>>     
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>>>> Sent: Apr 13, 2011 4:55 PM
>>>>> To: boyd411 at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Borla mufflers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 4/13/11 14 34 10, boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Has anyone had any experience with any of the Borla line of mufflers /
>>>>>> resonators on a Pantera? I have heard them on some sports cars but
>>>>>>             
>> never
>>     
>>>>>> anything with a big V-8. They sound good on a Jaguar that I heard but
>>>>>>             
>> I
>>     
>>>>>> don't know how they would sound on a V-8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Borla made an off-the-rack system for Panteras for a short time.   They
>>>>> were absolutely awful--they were astoundingly loud!   Just a complete
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> failure
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> in terms of muffling anything, which is probably why they only sold a
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> couple
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> before they pulled the plug.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
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