[DeTomaso] harness bar.

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Firefighter Art,
All I can say is it is a good thing you are a paramedic and responded to your own crash. That photo of you with your head sticking through the roof is classic ;-]>
Love you man


Mad Dawg Antenucci 
Team Pantera Racing 
The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing 
www.teampanteraracing.com

--- On Tue, 9/14/10, Art Stephens <artstephens at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Art Stephens <artstephens at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] harness bar.
To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>, dt at ieee.org, JDeRyke at aol.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 5:54 PM


Dawg wrote;

> "Art would probably not be alive today if he had a harness buckled in as he cart wheeled across the Utah desert driving the car with his rear view mirror."
> 
Boyd,
As Dennis mentioned,  I think there is a pretty good chance I would be dead, paralyzed or a vegetable,  (though I have been accused of the vegetable status long before the accident),  had I been using a harness in my car when the accident occurred.  I had no roll bar,  cage or helmet.  The left side of the roof was crushed but the right side was not.  Because the shoulder strap was over my left shoulder and not my right,  it allowed my torso to go to the uncrushed right side of the cab.  I had never thought of the hazard of a harness without a roll bar until I saw my car after the accident. Pictures at the link below.  Oh,  and Dawg Man,  I got yer rear view mirror right here pal!  LOL.  I just read about a new product today that might help make the shoulder belt more useful for spirited driving. The link is www.cg-lock.co.uk


Art

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> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
> The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> www.teampanteraracing.com
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/13/10, JDeRyke at aol.com <JDeRyke at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: JDeRyke at aol.com <JDeRyke at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] harness bar.
> To: dt at ieee.org
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 11:45 PM
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/13/10 10:21:31 PM, dt at ieee.org writes:
> 
>> 5/8" Thick ? (0.625")
>> 
>> Really ?
>> 
> Yup. And it weighs at least 10 lbs. Since its only supported on the extreme
> ends and the shoulder harnesses slide on and pull from 12-18" toward the
> unsupported center, it has to be massive to keep from bending too much when
> you smack something hard and use the harnesses. But adding a third bolt in the
> center to better support the bar would require pulling the rear glass,
> drilling & reinforcing the window frame area after finding a good welder to
> assemble all the extras. A better plan might be adding a bracket to the floor
> and using extended harness straps like are used in sedans. But to my knowlege,
> no one's ever been killed or injured using a Hall bar, so.... FWIW- J
> DeRyke
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