[DeTomaso] what clutches that work with the ZF?

bill gaino gaino at earthlink.net
Tue Sep 7 11:27:32 EDT 2010


Just before I changed to the dash 2 trans.. I did a smokey burnout with the 5000 mile used centerforce. When I pulled the trans out I was suprized to see the disc and plate were burned from slipping. Maybe a little esier to push in, but you do give up clamping force with a ceterforce.  I will NOT buy another..... Bill 1362

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>From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sep 7, 2010 2:11 AM
>To: detomaso at realbig.com, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] what clutches that work with the ZF?
>
>Good post AJ.
>Would agree with Will and others on use of McCloud clutch.  If you have a Centerforce and aren't driving hard, doing smoking launches  the Centerforce will work fine but soon as you start driving hard you want the McCloud...  
>Centerforce worked for year UNTIL I moved into the 450-500+ RWHP range and then even a new replacement Centerforce slipped on dyno so if you have heavy duty race/orr and/or want  regular tire smoking launches you need the MCloud. 
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>--- On Mon, 9/6/10, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
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>From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] what clutches that work with the ZF?
>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 10:49 PM
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>  Ken,
>
>For -one- perspective, start here:
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>Asa Jay
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>On 9/6/2010 21:31, Ken Green wrote:
>> Julian,
>>   
>>      I'm trying to figure out what makes one a Pantera clutch versus a Mustang clutch.  I understand the issue with the weights in some three finger clutches that come out at higher RPM and nail the inside for the bell housing, but what is the issue with other pressure plates?  Are some thinner and the throwout bearing can't be adjusted properly? 
>>   
>>      There also is the mod to the original disks to remove the marcel spring to shorten engagement/disengagement, but as far as I know, the "Pantera" disks offered by Centerforce and McLeod have the marcel spring?
>>   
>> Ken
>>
>> --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Julian Kift<julian_kift at hotmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Julian Kift<julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] what clutches that work with the ZF?
>> To: mikeldrew at aol.com, kenn_green at yahoo.com, "De Tomaso List"<detomaso at realbig.com>
>> Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 9:05 PM
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>>
>>
>> Got to www.Jegs.com and type in "Pantera clutch" as keywords and you'll get a list of 8 Mcleod choices and 4 Centerforce. No photo's but you can go back to the clutch manufacturers wenbsite and pull up the specific part numbers for more details on each option.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:03:39 -0400
>>> From: mikeldrew at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] what clutches that work with the ZF?
>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>
>>>      So, if you have part numbers, please share them.
>>>
>>>>>> I don't have the part numbers handy. I sure wish McLeod hadn't
>>> removed that page from their website, as it has them all.
>>>
>>> I have specifically (personally) had great luck with their
>>> three-finger and diaphragmn pressure plates, and their dual-friction
>>> clutch disc. I've also had luck with Centerforce's pressure plate and
>>> dual friction clutch disc. I know the Centerforce numbers are in the
>>> archives somewhere, and I think I published the McLeod numbers here a
>>> few years ago.
>>>
>>> Mike
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