[DeTomaso] Questions on 4v heads

michael@michaelshortt.com michaelsavga at gmail.com
Sun Oct 24 19:09:48 EDT 2010


Simply look at images of Mad Dawg's car.  Proven in the Real World.  Michael
Shortt.

Side skirts, front splitter, No Rear Wing (although I think he does have a
Gurney lip).
On Oct 24, 2010 6:29 PM, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think the best, but not the easiest, is to vent all the radiator air
through the hood, not under the car.
>
> Kne
>
> --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>
> From: Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Questions on 4v heads
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 3:01 PM
>
>
> Indeed,these items will help save my life if I lose control. I should have

> been more clear with my question. What type of chassis/body/skirt mods
> should be done to make the car stable at speed? I recall something about
the
> front end lifting at 170+?
> Will
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> To: <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Questions on 4v heads
>
>
>>I would add that if you want to be safe going fast, spend money on being
>> able to stop.  Brake systems should be a major part of any go fast
>> effort.    MICHAEL
>> On Oct 24, 2010 5:13 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
>> <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Safe at higher speeds:
>>> 1. Roll cage
>>> 2. Fuel cell
>>> 3. Helmet, nomex, hans, belts
>>> 4. Fire suppression system
>>> 5. Eclectrical disconnect
>>> 6. Radio
>>>
>>> Michael Shortt
>>> On Oct 24, 2010 4:49 PM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dang, JDeRyke - what sage advice!!!!! Have your cake and eat it too!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: JDeRyke at aol.com
>>>>> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:56:24 -0400
>>>>> To: rob at dumoulins.net; detomaso at realbig.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Questions on 4v heads
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 10/24/10 6:51:24 AM, rob at dumoulins.net writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Tony stated that I would be better off with 2V heads and a different
>>>>> > manifold so I could get better port velocity. He stated I might be
>> able
>>> to get
>>>>> > an other 100 HP with the right heads/intake/carb setup.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any of you ever heard of Tony?
>>>>> > Do you guys agree with what he said?
>>>>> > Can I get notable improvement installing the port stuffers?
>>>>> >
>>>>> Never met the man, but Tony seems to know what he's talking about.
>> Vendor
>>>
>>>>> Larry Stock of PPC-Carson City runs Aussie 2V heads on his Silver
State
>>>>> street Pantera, with lots of other engine work but no stroker crank,
>>>>> and
>>> it
>>>>> dynoed at roughly 400 bhp. Intake port stuffers may help but really,
>>> adding speed
>>>>> parts to an unmolested 40-year-old engine is just asking for big
>> trouble.
>>>
>>>>> For instance, your 'smoke at start-up' may be ring wear or valve guide
>>> wear;
>>>>> as-stock the heads had no real valve guide seals and what they did get
>>> often
>>>>> affects the life of the oil pump-and bearings. I've seen many guys
with
>>>>> stone-stockers bolt on advertised power-adders and blow 'important'
>> parts
>>> right
>>>>> out of the blocks.
>>>>> Buy yourself a spare 351-C and do a complete rebuild done on it, with
>>>>> carefully selected speed parts, while you simultaneously enjoy the car
>>> as-is
>>>>> until the replacement is ready. Expect to spend maybe $5000 for more
>>> power in
>>>>> your 'new' motor. Chassis upgrades will be a good idea, too; Larry's
>>>>> car
>>> has
>>>>> seen 182 mph..... My best guess- J DeRyke
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