[DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to own a gun needs to read this! NOW!!

[Bill Lewis]

You know if you took away California's climate and geography, it has very little to offer.  Is that an over-simplification?  And, no, I am not dissing CA - I would move there in flash, except for several major problems.  But, speaking of Panteras, it is a great driving state.





> From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
> To: pantdino at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:45:19 -0700
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to	own a gun needs to read this! NOW!!
> 
> My 2 cents...
> 
> In California all private party transfers must go thru a FFL dealer.  Cost to the buyer is
> about $50+. The buyer completes a Federal (and local) background check. (Form 4479 for
> long guns, different form for handguns). The buyer must wait (at least) 10 days, many
> dealers read this 11 or more, to pick it up, even if you own other guns.  The handgun
> buyer also needs to have a "Handgun Safety Certificate" (test and another $50, good for 5
> years).  I don't remember if this is for all gun types, but a buyer must also prove they
> have a Federal (and state) certified gun safe (on a Gov't list) or the buyer must buy a
> "trigger" lock at the same time (Cost varies, figure $15). You can't bring any lock, you
> must buy one each time.
> 
> Some guns can not change hands in California at all.  For example a son can not even
> inherit some firearms from his father.  They must be shipped out of California, or be
> seized (without compensation) by the state.
> 
> If you move to California with guns you must 'register' with the state within 10 days.
> 
> You can only buy a "new" retail handgun in California if the handgun is on the "drop test
> list". (with a few exceptions)
> 
> (Manufacturer has paid big fees for a "drop test" for every model variant (even
> color/finish change).  Some manufacturers just don't bother with the California market.
> 
> There is so much more to the issues of firearms in California it would fill a book,
> or several books.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On Behalf Of
> Pantdino
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:07 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to own a gun
> needs to read this! NOW!!
> 
> 
> Seems to me the big problem is law-abiding people selling guns to criminals on a private
> basis.
> 
> Would the gun owners on the list have a problem with a law making it illegal to sell a gun
> to an individual without following the same protocols the dealers do?
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Udelson <jefude at yahoo.com>
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 5:33 am
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to own a gun needs to
> read this! NOW!!
> 
> 
>  
> eftist Larry is my favorite liberal.  Since his exile from the PI Forum I miss 
> xchanging shots with him. 
> emember Larry is semi-retired and has nothing better to do than throw out these 
> athetic barbs. Maybe he is just bored and wants to stir up the pot here. 
> hat I do not understand about this particular thread  is Larry is  a UNION man. 
>  would think that would make him pro- gun.  Are unions different on the left 
> oast? Do they allow girly men?
> To Larry : Can we  just all co-exist?  Sing Kumbayah for us !
> 
>      
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