[DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to own a gun needs to read this! NOW!!

Christopher Kimball chrisvkimball at msn.com
Wed Oct 20 21:51:28 EDT 2010


Those darn coconuts!

> From: cars at wt-inc.com
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; fresnofinches at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to own a gun needs to read this! NOW!!
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:18:57 -0700
> 
> Boy this reminds me of a time when I got hit in the head from a falling
> coconut while trying to buy a gun from a person sitting in their fast car.
> I fell over into a 5 gallon paint bucket head first.  I would have drown but
> since I was behind a horse he was spooked and kicked the bucket.......
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Kimball
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:05 PM
> To: fresnofinches at aol.com; Pantera List Serve
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to
> own a gun needs to read this! NOW!!
> 
> 
> OK, I hate to get into controversies, but hey, I'll bet there are far more
> deaths and maimings from car accidents than guns.  
> 
> If someone had driven a car into President Reagan, would there be a huge
> outcry to outlaw cars?  In fact, a speeding car crashing into a crowded
> shopping center could easily kill more people than a lone gunman with a
> pistol.
> 
> To be specific; there are currently 247,000,000 passenger vehicles in the
> USA according to a 2007 D.O.T. study.  In 2009, there were approximately
> 34,000 traffic deaths in this Country.
> 
> There are 235,000,000 handguns in the USA.  There are approximately 29,000
> hand-gun related deaths each year (give or take a few), and about 17,000 are
> suicides (which, arguably, would occur via some other way if handguns
> weren't available).
> 
> Nevertheless, even counting suicides, there is approximately one gun-related
> death for every 8,103 guns in this country, and one traffic death for every
> 7,265 cars owned.
> 
> Let's outlaw cars!
> 
> Chris
> 
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:51:28 -0400
> > From: fresnofinches at aol.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Anybody that owns a gun or wants to continue to own a
> gun needs to read this! NOW!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Gun shows are found in many cities throughout the year.
> > Many states have no gun sale regulations. Those that do differ widely in
> their regulations.
> > Vendors at gun shows may include both federally licensed and private
> sellers.
> > Federally licensed sellers must adhere to federal regulations.
> > Private sellers may or may not be required to follow regulations.
> > Federally licensed sellers do leave a paper trail of sales and this can be
> monitored.
> > Private sellers do not leave a paper trail.
> > Laws and regulations can be followed, ignored or bypassed.
> > 
> > Doug stated "a federal study found that gun show sales account for only 2%
> of the guns used in crimes."
> > This is laughably inaccurate. By default, any such study can only include
> recorded sales made at gun shows.
> > Thus it omits most private gun sales made at these shows. Likewise, it can
> only include crimes where the
> > weapon is recovered by law enforcement; surely most crimes are not solved
> and no weapons are recovered.
> > 
> > Doug is correct when he says Federally licensed dealers must follow all
> regulations, including waiting period regulations,
> > for all sales in retail locations or at gun shows. However, private
> sellers are not under such regulation in most states. 
> > Private sellers may make their sales at gun shows, gun clubs, through the
> Internet or any other venue they may choose.
> > Under most state laws, none of those sales are regulated. 
> > 
> > In 1981 President Reagan narrowly escaped being assassinated by a lone
> gunman. His Press Secretary Jim Brady was
> > not so fortunate, and suffered a devastating head wound from one of the
> shooter's exploding bullets. In response, the
> > Brady Campaign and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence were created.
> Their Mission Statement is simply this:
> > 
> > 
> >                          Weare devoted to creating an America free from
> gun violence, where allAmericans are safe at home, at school,
> > at work, and in our communities.
> > 
> > On April 16, 2007 32 people were killed by a gunman at Virginia Tech.
> Colin Goddard was shot four times in that massacre
> > but did survive. He has taken it upon himself to help assist in closing
> the gun show loophole. To this end he works with the
> > Brady Campaign and visits gun shows carrying cash but no I.D. He easily
> purchases and leaves those shows with guns.
> > 
> > View his YouTube video here:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPgr_tw79Q
> > 
> > Anyone who says there is not a gun sales loophole at gun shows (and many
> other locations) is either misinformed
> > or not being honest.
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > 
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