[DeTomaso] Windsor history.

[Charles McCall]

All of what Mike says is true, having spoken to Colin many times myself
about his "Sport special". I think the upgrade was $4500 or so? At least he
said that it was a GOOD truck engine, even if it was a truck engine that was
internally unmodified. 

DeTomaso didn't always just screw the customer though. The former owner of
my GT5-S had an early 80's Pantera with a "Group 3" engine that he still
raves about to this day. It revved easily to 6500 rpm and was unlike any of
the other Clevelands he had ever driven (and he has owned 7 or 8 DeTomasos).


I have to wonder about Colin's motor... Did DeTomaso run out of go-fast
parts (Colin's was one of the last GT5-S cars built) and he didn't want to
buy more in case he couldn't sell them? Did he never have go-fast parts for
Windsors, since he would only sell a total of perhaps 30 Windsor-powered
cars? We'll never know I guess!

Charles McCall
1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
"Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323

-----Mensaje original-----
De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
nombre de MikeLDrew at aol.com
Enviado el: sábado, 09 de octubre de 2010 12:06
Para: JDeRyke at aol.com; davel at emspace.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] Windsor history.


In a message dated 10/8/10 22 08 9, JDeRyke at aol.com writes:


> Then DeTomaso began using 351 Windsors in Panteras and Longchamps two
> states of tune- the standard truck engine and a mildly hot-rodded version 
> for
> substantially more money.
> 

>>>And the dirty little secret was, no matter which version the customer 
ordered and paid for, he just got the bone-stock truck motor!   Colin
Bradshaw 
is an original owner of one the last GT5-S Panteras made (1989 model); he 
ordered it from the factory with the expensive 'upgraded' engine.   When it 
finally blew   up and they took it apart, it had never been touched--just a 
bone-stock truck engine.

Another UK club member paid extra for a 4.00 ring and pinion.   What he got 
for his money was a gearbox with "4.00" stamped on the top.   However, he 
later did a side-by-side comparison with an identical car equipped with a 
4.22 differential, and they turned exactly the same rpm at the same speed.
So 
for his extra money, all he got was a cute little stamping on the gearbox 
case!

Ah, De Tomaso...:>)

Mike
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