[DeTomaso] 1972 Pantera shift linkage

[Will Kooiman]

I replaced mine with a new shaft from Quella.  I sent him the old shaft and
the shifter.  He returned a new shaft, the shifter rebuilt, and new needle
bearing u-joints.  It is much much better.

Of course, right now I'm not going anywhere.  The engine is still missing.
It ~was~ silky smooth, though.

I forgot to mention.  The adjustable portion was bent, probably from a lost
u-joint in the 70's.  Dennis straightened that part too.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of boyd casey
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:38 PM
To: hoppe1 at cox.net
Cc: De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Pantera shift linkage

I was helping Bob try to straighten out his shifter problem. His shifter
gate appears to be original. It's important to note that everything worked
before he had the car taken apart. The guy who did the restoration painted
the shifter linkage and now the trunnion nuts are frozen. (not all of them).
The lock nut closest to the fire wall is free and when you try to shift into
reverse the shifter linkage shaft turns into and out of the trunnion.. We
both tried to free the trunnion and the last nut(the one closest to the
back of the car. I suggested trying the formula of automatic tranny fluid
and acetone and possibly heat. It is my understanding that the linkage is
not supposed to be painted. I think if we could get the trunnion and lock
nuts free we could have gotten the shifter aligned..
Boyd

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:41 PM, <hoppe1 at cox.net> wrote:

> If you have thick carpet it raises the shift cover where the shift gate
> sits on
> see if you can get the cover to go down further and it will help the left
> and righ movement
> Rich
> ---- Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> wrote:
> >   That's a good procedure.
> > Now just in case Bob has this one also....................
> >
> > I can't get enough lateral travel.
> > When I set the turnbuckle with the shifter far enough to the right to
> > get reverse, I scrape the right side of the 2nd gear gate.
> > When I re-centre it for 2nd & 4th, I can't get reverse.
> >
> > You'd thing the console was up too high or something like that.
> > Anybody have an idea?
> > tks
> > dave
> >
> >
> > On 10/3/2010 8:21 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> > > This is most certainly a shift rod alignment issue, did you remove
both
> ends of the shift linkage for painting?
> > >
> > > If the turnbuckle was not previously undone the shift rod may have
been
> reassembled with a u-joint offset by one spline, which is possible to do
and
> still get the bolt to go through the clamp.
> > >
> > > Remember that the turnbuckle has one right hand thread and one left
> hand thread, so be sure to wrench in the right direction. Left hand
threads
> are normally moarked on the nut with a small nick/cut on the hexagonal
ponts
> of the nut. It sounds like you have undone the right hand nut, so try
> tightening the other one and it should undo!
> > >
> > > For adjustment put the car in neutral and then adjust the turnbuckle
so
> as to center the gear stick in the middle of the gate neutral position as
a
> first approximation and the fine tune from there if need be. Be aware that
a
> very small movement on the turnbuckle is quite a change at the gear stick,
> so much so that the act of retightening the turnbuckle can misalign
> everything again if you don't hold it in the desired position whilst you
> button everything up.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >> From: LEVITT1946 at aol.com
> > >> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:08:35 -0400
> > >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] 1972 Pantera shift linkage
> > >>
> > >> Dear Friends ,
> > >>
> > >> My car is painted ,running and I cannot seem to get the car into gear
> ..
> > >>
> > >> I have tried adjusting the turn screw and the two bolts on the
linkage
> . I
> > >> can only move the bolt closest to the engine . When I loosen that
bolt
> the
> > >> car will go thru the gears but there is no reverse .
> > >>
> > >> I started the engine and used the clutch to run thru the gears . All
> gears
> > >> seem to work but when i put the car in reverse she still moves
forward
> .
> > >>
> > >> Ideas,
> > >>
> > >> Does the clutch need to be bled ?
> > >>
> > >> Does the linkage need adjusting? I cannot move it .It is frozen in
> place
> > >> .Use heat?
> > >>
> > >> Can this all be caused by needing to be bled more or is it an
> adjustment at
> > >> the slave cylinder ?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Bob Levitt
> > >> Team Pantera Racing #3196
> > >> Gumball3000 #56
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