[DeTomaso] Long and Newman body & frame cheap on ebay

[L GRAY]

          Jack and all,

           Once again the facts !  The majority of L & N Pantera Replicas were V-8 frame cars!! Only a couple of the V-6 frame cars were built. The frames were identical until you got to the  rear firewall / bulkhead area. From there the V-6 cars differed greatly for the transverse drivetrain set up and the attendant suspension.
         The Long & Newman cars looked nothing like a Fiero which had a much shorter wheelbase. The Long & Newman V-8 and V-6 cars had the identical wheelbase, track, and the EXACT stock DeTomaso Pantera body dimensions...again if you read my previous post , the molds were pulled from an original 1972-L chassis # THPNML 04371 which I owned at the time. The cars also used all original Pantera suspension and brakes including the steering rack , spindles , control arms, rear uprights and axles.

        Please stop making this stuff up as you go!! These spates of erroneous information regarding the L & N cars  serves only to confuse people and truly misrepresents the product!

                                                                             Les Gray

 ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JDeRyke at aol.com<mailto:JDeRyke at aol.com> 
  To: spkorb at gmail.com<mailto:spkorb at gmail.com> 
  Cc: detomaso at realbig.com<mailto:detomaso at realbig.com> 
  Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Long and Newman body & frame cheap on ebay


  In a message dated 10/1/10 12:32:48 PM, spkorb at gmail.com<mailto:spkorb at gmail.com> writes:

  > It sounds like it wouldn't be too hard to throw a supercharged GM V6 or 
  > Northstar or even that lightweight monster they dropped in Pontiac G8s in 
  > there. 
  > 
  The L-N kits used two different frames-   one for the fwd v-6 powertrain 
  and one for a v-8 with a ZF. Most of the 50-some kits were sold with the 
  cheaper, easier to finish V-6. With those, once finished, you had- an odd looking 
  Fiero, and the stock Getrag transaxle was limited to about 250 bhp before 
  the diff spider gears and CV joints began taking a hike. With the automatic 
  transaxle, it would hold a few more ponies than the 5-speed. Lots of trouble 
  for what you got IMHO- J DeRyke
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