[DeTomaso] pneumatic kit to find TDC

[Rob Dumoulin]

It's not Michael Frazier, it's his initials.  With initials like MF, you're
gonna be perceived a bad mo fo :O

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net>wrote:

>  I didn’t mean to be mean.  MF was mean, but that’s just MF.  His normal
> is most people’s mean.  Damn.  There I go being mean to MF.  ;-)
>
>
>
> The tube thingie looks interesting, but it’s a gadget.  It certainly isn’t
> accurate.
>
>
>
> My comments were directed at distinguishing between TDC on the
> compression/power strokes and TDC on the exhaust/intake strokes – and not
> necessarily at finding TDC accurately.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:22 PM
> *To:* Will Kooiman; rob at dumoulins.net; fresnofinches at aol.com; michael
> frazier
> *Cc:* pantera list
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] pneumatic kit to find TDC
>
>
>
> You guys are MEAN.
>
>
>
> The accepted method to find TDC appears to be to insert a shaft, rod, bolt
> etc. into the spark plug hole and run the piston against it from both sides
> and mark TDC as the average.  This is suppose to be looking for a very
> accurate value, like less than a degree error.  Looking at valve won't do
> that, and you don't know that the cam is ground perfectly.
>
>
>
> The pneumatic approach appears to be something you do when it is not easy
> to put the piston stop in the plug hole, or if you are not comfortable with
> running the piston up against a stop.
>
>
>
> Ken
>
> --- On *Sat, 11/27/10, michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pneumatic kit to find TDC
> To: "Will Kooiman" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>, rob at dumoulins.net,
> fresnofinches at aol.com
> Cc: "pantera list" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:01 PM
>
>
> Exactly Will,
>    That thing should be in the same catalog as muffler bearings & cans of
> muzzle blast.
>
> Michael Frazier
> Gruppo Rompiculi Corsa
>
> > It looks like a whole lot of gadget for a simple enough task.
> >
> > You can remove a valve cover and watch the valves. The compression stroke
> > is TDC right after the intake valve closes.
> >
> > If you don't want to remove a valve cover, remove the #1 plug, and cover
> the
> > hole with your finger. Don't stick your finger all the way in the spark
> > plug hole. Just cover the hole. When the piston comes up on the compress
> > stroke, it will blow your finger off.
> >
> > You can use a screw driver to find TDC. The screw driver will stop
> getting
> > pushed out the hole as the piston comes up.
> >
> > I have also used a spark-plug-TDC-locator. It is essentially a piston
> stop
> > that screws into a spark plug hole. You turn it over by hand until it
> > stops, mark the balancer, turn it over in the opposite direction, mark
> the
> > balancer, halfway between the 2 marks is TDC.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>[mailto:
> detomaso-bounces at realbig.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso-bounces@realbig.com>]
> On
> > Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:03 AM
> > To: Larry Finch
> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] pneumatic kit to find TDC
> >
> > Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. This one also would only
> > show you TDC on the compression stroke, which is when you want to line up
> > the distributor too.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com<http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fresnofinches@aol.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > right here...
> > >
> > > http://www.jhmbuttco.com/acatalog/info_AST5005.html
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > >
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