[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 76, Issue 17

Trip Owen lance730 at msn.com
Wed Nov 17 08:31:05 EST 2010


Suggested Starter Motors???
Newbie to the brotherhood will need advice and will have dumb questions.
Can you any Ford 351 starter motor work in 1988 gt5s? (stock exhaust)
would the car have a 157 tooth flywheel? 
Trip (Maryland)
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> 1. Re: stuff for sale (bill gaino)
> 2. Re: TPR Award Banquet Photos (cengles at cox.net)
> 3. Re: stainless heater nipple (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 4. Re: stuff for sale (Cullen McCann)
> 5. Re: TPR Awards now posted to TPR site (SOBill at aol.com)
> 6. Re: stuff for sale (Ken Green)
> 7. Re: stuff for sale (Cullen McCann)
> 8. Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Ken Green)
> 9. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 10. Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Garth Rodericks)
> 11. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Brian Ward)
> 12. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Garth Rodericks)
> 13. Congratulations to SOBill (J coyne)
> 14. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (WLHPANTERA at aol.com)
> 15. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Brian Ward)
> 16. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (michael at michaelshortt.com)
> 17. Re: Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay (Asa Jay Laughton)
> 18. Predator Carb (Curt Hall)
> 19. Re: Predator Carb (peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net)
> 20. Paging the "Puppy and Ghandi" (Brian Ward)
> 21. Re: TPR Award Banquet Photos (Dan Courtney)
> 22. Re: Paging the "Puppy and Ghandi" (Garth Rodericks)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:50:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com,
> detomaso at realbig.com
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> The red LA car scares the hell out of me. That fender rust looks like it is coming from underneath. By the time you strip down to it ... there ain't gonna be nothing left. Keep looking..... Bill 1362
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2010 6:21 PM
> >To: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >
> >
> >I hope that some of you LA folks reply about the one in LA. Just curious - weird bumps (even in the daylight). ---Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:04:17 -0600
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >> 
> >> Well its raining and cold here in Oklahoma, something you west coast guys
> >> probably don't see much.so it's a good time to poke around. Plus the boss
> >> isn't looking. Just the messenger.I haven't contacted any of these guys to
> >> get any details.and again this is just new stuff.not stuff that is
> >> perpetually for sale for months.unless its been off the radar and then
> >> recently back on.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cars:
> >> 
> >> We've seen this car listed before, but I think the price has come down some
> >> and its been recently relisted. 
> >> 
> >> http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/cto/2055427395.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> (to me) this could be an awesome deal for a project car. Granted it appears
> >> to me that one can buy a car much cleaner for about 6 grand more, but
> >> nevertheless.this looks like a good builder on the west coast for mid low
> >> 20's. Of if he came down.even better!.got some bubbly paint in some places
> >> but considering the location of the bubbles, the location of the car and my
> >> very low standards for a builder, it wouldn't keep me from looking at it.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2051335763.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> still a mangusta listed for sale as an unrestored solid builder..according
> >> to the very vague seller. This would be worth at least attempted contact I
> >> think.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2049113650.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Parts:
> >> 
> >> in the LA area, this could be a deal for someone wanting to build a GT5
> >> style car..not sure of quality?
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2053050423.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Headers for sale in the sacramento area.Dan C - are you still looking for
> >> headers? Not much description, all we know is they are good.
> >> 
> >> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2060822295.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Campys in 7 and 8".and a trunk insert mentioned
> >> 
> >> http://baltimore.craigslist.org/pts/2017940629.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Wanted/Trade?
> >> 
> >> Decent looking street rod to trade for a pantera if you perhaps wanted to do
> >> that.hmmm. Especially one with a wing and flares.
> >> 
> >> http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/2027638662.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 9:17:37 -0500
> From: <cengles at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TPR Award Banquet Photos
> To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
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> Dear Asa and Forum,
> 
> Thanks for posting. Congratulations to Messrs. Radefield, Hower and Taylor. Well done. Well deserved.
> 
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> 
> ---- Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> > Yes really... we have photos from the 2010 TPR Awards recipients. You
> > gotta look:
> >
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
> >
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > & Shelley Marie
> > Spokane, WA
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:45:24 -0800
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stainless heater nipple
> To: detomaso at list.realbig.com
> Message-ID: <4CE29904.7000000 at asajay.com>
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> 
> Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to mislead anyone. The ones from Napa are 
> plain steel, not stainless. As I recall, I paid about three bucks and 
> if it lasts another 30 years and 100 thousand miles, I'll be happy. 
> Heck... I'm happy -now-.
> :)
> 
> Asa Jay
> 
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> 
> 
> On 11/15/2010 22:29, doug351c wrote:
> > Asa Jay,
> >
> > The NAPA ones are standard steel though aren't they?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Asa Jay Laughton
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 6:45 AM
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stainless heater nipple
> >
> >
> > And they are available brand new from Napa for just a few dollars.
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > & Shelley Marie
> > Spokane, WA
> > ******************************
> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >
> >
> > On 11/14/2010 18:07, Larry Finch wrote:
> >>
> >> An owner here in the San Joaquin Valley turns these out.
> >>
> >> Marlin Jack in Manteca.
> >>
> >> See this PI thread
> >>
> >> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4250045562/m/630105306/p/1
> >>
> >> pantera1974 at verizon.net is his email
> >>
> >> Larry
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:48:08 -0600
> From: Cullen McCann <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> To: "'bill gaino'" <gaino at earthlink.net>, "'Bill Lewis'"
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Goes to show you that I guess they can rust anywhere....literally. (Both meanings apply) Cars can rust in California or cars can rust on the top of the fender where water doesn?t get trapped anywhere. My car has rust issues that are being resolved, but it definitely didn?t have rust on top of the sheet metal....it was rusty where you would think...in the places where water couldn?t escape.
> 
> I suppose the car may not have spent its whole life in California....
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> 
> The red LA car scares the hell out of me. That fender rust looks like it is coming from underneath. By the time you strip down to it ... there ain't gonna be nothing left. Keep looking..... Bill 1362
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2010 6:21 PM
> >To: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >
> >
> >I hope that some of you LA folks reply about the one in LA. Just curious - weird bumps (even in the daylight). ---Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:04:17 -0600
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >> 
> >> Well its raining and cold here in Oklahoma, something you west coast guys
> >> probably don't see much.so it's a good time to poke around. Plus the boss
> >> isn't looking. Just the messenger.I haven't contacted any of these guys to
> >> get any details.and again this is just new stuff.not stuff that is
> >> perpetually for sale for months.unless its been off the radar and then
> >> recently back on.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cars:
> >> 
> >> We've seen this car listed before, but I think the price has come down some
> >> and its been recently relisted. 
> >> 
> >> http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/cto/2055427395.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> (to me) this could be an awesome deal for a project car. Granted it appears
> >> to me that one can buy a car much cleaner for about 6 grand more, but
> >> nevertheless.this looks like a good builder on the west coast for mid low
> >> 20's. Of if he came down.even better!.got some bubbly paint in some places
> >> but considering the location of the bubbles, the location of the car and my
> >> very low standards for a builder, it wouldn't keep me from looking at it.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2051335763.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> still a mangusta listed for sale as an unrestored solid builder..according
> >> to the very vague seller. This would be worth at least attempted contact I
> >> think.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2049113650.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Parts:
> >> 
> >> in the LA area, this could be a deal for someone wanting to build a GT5
> >> style car..not sure of quality?
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2053050423.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Headers for sale in the sacramento area.Dan C - are you still looking for
> >> headers? Not much description, all we know is they are good.
> >> 
> >> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2060822295.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Campys in 7 and 8".and a trunk insert mentioned
> >> 
> >> http://baltimore.craigslist.org/pts/2017940629.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Wanted/Trade?
> >> 
> >> Decent looking street rod to trade for a pantera if you perhaps wanted to do
> >> that.hmmm. Especially one with a wing and flares.
> >> 
> >> http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/2027638662.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:32:32 -0500 (EST)
> From: SOBill at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TPR Awards now posted to TPR site
> To: teampantera at yahoo.com, detomaso at realbig.com
> Message-ID: <659e8.155cfa7f.3a140c20 at aol.com>
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> I am humbled ..... and that ain't easy to do.
> 
> Have fun today,
> 
> sobill at aol.com 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:53:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> To: 'bill gaino' <gaino at earthlink.net>, 'Bill Lewis'
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com, Cullen McCann
> <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <345889.6371.qm at web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> A lot of Panteras in California spent years close to the ocean.? The salt air is a killer and can get inside everything.? It's probably the worst where you get the marine layer in the morning, and unprotected metal rusts really fast.
> ?
> Ken
> 
> --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Cullen McCann <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Cullen McCann <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> To: "'bill gaino'" <gaino at earthlink.net>, "'Bill Lewis'" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 6:48 AM
> 
> 
> Goes to show you that I guess they can rust anywhere....literally. (Both meanings apply) Cars can rust in California or cars can rust on the top of the fender where water doesn?t get trapped anywhere. My car has rust issues that are being resolved, but it definitely didn?t have rust on top of the sheet metal....it was rusty where you would think...in the places where water couldn?t escape.
> 
> I suppose the car may not have spent its whole life in California....
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> 
> The red LA car scares the hell out of me. That fender rust looks like it is coming from underneath. By the time you strip down to it ... there ain't gonna be nothing left. Keep looking.....? Bill 1362
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2010 6:21 PM
> >To: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com, detomaso at realbig.com
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >
> >
> >I hope that some of you LA folks reply about the one in LA.? Just curious - weird bumps (even in the daylight).? ? ---Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:04:17 -0600
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >> 
> >> Well its raining and cold here in Oklahoma, something you west coast guys
> >> probably don't see much.so it's a good time to poke around. Plus the boss
> >> isn't looking. Just the messenger.I haven't contacted any of these guys to
> >> get any details.and again this is just new stuff.not stuff that is
> >> perpetually for sale for months.unless its been off the radar and then
> >> recently back on.
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> Cars:
> >> 
> >> We've seen this car listed before, but I think the price has come down some
> >> and its been recently relisted. 
> >> 
> >> http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/cto/2055427395.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> (to me) this could be an awesome deal for a project car. Granted it appears
> >> to me that one can buy a car much cleaner for about 6 grand more, but
> >> nevertheless.this looks like a good builder on the west coast for mid low
> >> 20's. Of if he came down.even better!.got some bubbly paint in some places
> >> but considering the location of the bubbles, the location of the car and my
> >> very low standards for a builder, it wouldn't keep me from looking at it.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2051335763.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> still a mangusta listed for sale as an unrestored solid builder..according
> >> to the very vague seller. This would be worth at least attempted contact I
> >> think.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2049113650.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> Parts:
> >> 
> >> in the LA area, this could be a deal for someone wanting to build a GT5
> >> style car..not sure of quality?
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2053050423.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> Headers for sale in the sacramento area.Dan C - are you still looking for
> >> headers? Not much description, all we know is they are good.
> >> 
> >> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2060822295.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> Campys in 7 and 8".and a trunk insert mentioned
> >> 
> >> http://baltimore.craigslist.org/pts/2017940629.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >> Wanted/Trade?
> >> 
> >> Decent looking street rod to trade for a pantera if you perhaps wanted to do
> >> that.hmmm. Especially one with a wing and flares.
> >> 
> >> http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/2027638662.html
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
> >>? 
> >> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:20:52 -0600
> From: Cullen McCann <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> To: "'Ken Green'" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "'bill gaino'"
> <gaino at earthlink.net>, "'Bill Lewis'" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>,
> <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <00b901cb85b2$9f90c910$deb25b30$@com>
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> 
> Thanks Ken, that does make good sense?.So when people (ideally) are searching for ?California cars? obviously it?s the arid, interior climate that collector cars historically survive so well in?I also often read someone touting a car as an ?Arizona? car?.i think I knew why but I had never thought about near the very edge of the coast and salt air. Good thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:54 AM
> To: 'bill gaino'; 'Bill Lewis'; detomaso at realbig.com; Cullen McCann
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A lot of Panteras in California spent years close to the ocean. The salt air is a killer and can get inside everything. It's probably the worst where you get the marine layer in the morning, and unprotected metal rusts really fast.
> 
> 
> 
> Ken
> 
> --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Cullen McCann <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Cullen McCann <clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> To: "'bill gaino'" <gaino at earthlink.net>, "'Bill Lewis'" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, detomaso at realbig.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 6:48 AM
> 
> Goes to show you that I guess they can rust anywhere....literally. (Both meanings apply) Cars can rust in California or cars can rust on the top of the fender where water doesn?t get trapped anywhere. My car has rust issues that are being resolved, but it definitely didn?t have rust on top of the sheet metal....it was rusty where you would think...in the places where water couldn?t escape.
> 
> I suppose the car may not have spent its whole life in California....
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> 
> The red LA car scares the hell out of me. That fender rust looks like it is coming from underneath. By the time you strip down to it ... there ain't gonna be nothing left. Keep looking..... Bill 1362
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lotus0005@hotmail.com> >
> >Sent: Nov 15, 2010 6:21 PM
> >To: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=clarkwgriswold2nd@gmail.com> , detomaso at realbig.com <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com> 
> >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >
> >
> >I hope that some of you LA folks reply about the one in LA. Just curious - weird bumps (even in the daylight). ---Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: clarkwgriswold2nd at gmail.com <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=clarkwgriswold2nd@gmail.com> 
> >> To: detomaso at realbig.com <http://us.mc308.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=detomaso@realbig.com> 
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:04:17 -0600
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] stuff for sale
> >> 
> >> Well its raining and cold here in Oklahoma, something you west coast guys
> >> probably don't see much.so it's a good time to poke around. Plus the boss
> >> isn't looking. Just the messenger.I haven't contacted any of these guys to
> >> get any details.and again this is just new stuff.not stuff that is
> >> perpetually for sale for months.unless its been off the radar and then
> >> recently back on.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cars:
> >> 
> >> We've seen this car listed before, but I think the price has come down some
> >> and its been recently relisted. 
> >> 
> >> http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/cto/2055427395.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> (to me) this could be an awesome deal for a project car. Granted it appears
> >> to me that one can buy a car much cleaner for about 6 grand more, but
> >> nevertheless.this looks like a good builder on the west coast for mid low
> >> 20's. Of if he came down.even better!.got some bubbly paint in some places
> >> but considering the location of the bubbles, the location of the car and my
> >> very low standards for a builder, it wouldn't keep me from looking at it.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/2051335763.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> still a mangusta listed for sale as an unrestored solid builder..according
> >> to the very vague seller. This would be worth at least attempted contact I
> >> think.
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2049113650.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Parts:
> >> 
> >> in the LA area, this could be a deal for someone wanting to build a GT5
> >> style car..not sure of quality?
> >> 
> >> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/2053050423.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Headers for sale in the sacramento area.Dan C - are you still looking for
> >> headers? Not much description, all we know is they are good.
> >> 
> >> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/2060822295.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Campys in 7 and 8".and a trunk insert mentioned
> >> 
> >> http://baltimore.craigslist.org/pts/2017940629.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Wanted/Trade?
> >> 
> >> Decent looking street rod to trade for a pantera if you perhaps wanted to do
> >> that.hmmm. Especially one with a wing and flares.
> >> 
> >> http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/2027638662.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:21:05 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Message-ID: <26501.25208.qm at web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> Can someone get the auction pulled???
> ?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/120648398830
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:35:33 -0800
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: detomaso at list.realbig.com
> Message-ID: <20101116123533.zywh7r1esw4kwk8s at webmail.asajay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes";
> format="flowed"
> 
> The person who listed it actually put a contact email in the photo pane:
> 
> singer676 at MSN.com and they'll sell the car to you for a cool $15K.
> 
> Nice when they put their real email address in there huh. :)
> 
> 
> <insert evil overlord laugh here>
> Asa Jay
> 
> Quoting Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > ?
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/120648398830
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:50:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>, Asa Jay Laughton
> <asajay at asajay.com>, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <257746.36113.qm at web58101.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Reported as 'fraudulent' to ebay!
> 
> Requests for initial contact outside of ebay ALWAYS indicate it's a fraudulent 
> auction using a hijacked ebay account!
> 
> "Real" email? I doubt it. Anyone can create an email account on MSN (or Yahoo, 
> Gmail, etc.).
> 
> Might be nice to send this scum an email then run an IP trace to determine where 
> it's actually being sent from. Then send over some of our Italian brothers to 
> "have a little talk."
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avw0n9b2o9U
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> The person who listed it actually put a contact email in the photo pane:
> 
> singer676 at MSN.com and they'll sell the car to you for a cool $15K.
> 
> Nice when they put their real email address in there huh. :)
> 
> 
> <insert evil overlord laugh here>
> Asa Jay
> 
> Quoting Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/120648398830
> >0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:14:26 -0600
> From: "Brian Ward" <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: "'Garth Rodericks'" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail
> List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>, "'Asa Jay Laughton'"
> <asajay at asajay.com>, "'Ken Green'" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <000001cb85d3$40546ee0$c0fd4ca0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> This is d?j? vu.... In 2006, and you can go back and look at the archives, I
> wrote a very descriptive post about why not to contact these A$$holes. They
> want your email and your I.P. address!!!!!!!!!!!!! With it they have all the
> information stored on your computer. I just rejoined the list after being
> away for four years and glad to see some familiar names. Ken, how did the
> aprilia turn out?
> Brian
> Aka Grasshopper thanks to Madd Dawg
> Aka Gypsy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of Garth Rodericks
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:51 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List; Asa Jay Laughton; Ken Green
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> 
> Reported as 'fraudulent' to ebay!
> 
> Requests for initial contact outside of ebay ALWAYS indicate it's a
> fraudulent 
> auction using a hijacked ebay account!
> 
> "Real" email? I doubt it. Anyone can create an email account on MSN (or
> Yahoo, 
> Gmail, etc.).
> 
> Might be nice to send this scum an email then run an IP trace to determine
> where 
> it's actually being sent from. Then send over some of our Italian brothers
> to 
> "have a little talk."
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avw0n9b2o9U
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> The person who listed it actually put a contact email in the photo pane:
> 
> singer676 at MSN.com and they'll sell the car to you for a cool $15K.
> 
> Nice when they put their real email address in there huh. :)
> 
> 
> <insert evil overlord laugh here>
> Asa Jay
> 
> Quoting Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/12064
> 8398830
> >0
> 
> 
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
> <detomaso at realbig.com>, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>, Ken
> Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <675126.71550.qm at web58108.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Welcome back Brian! 
> 
> FWIW, I don't waste time or risk my privacy contacting these scammers. 
> 
> Ciao!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; DeTomaso Mail List 
> <detomaso at realbig.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; Ken Green 
> <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 1:14:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> 
> This is d?j? vu.... In 2006, and you can go back and look at the archives, I
> wrote a very descriptive post about why not to contact these A$$holes. They
> want your email and your I.P. address!!!!!!!!!!!!! With it they have all the
> information stored on your computer. I just rejoined the list after being
> away for four years and glad to see some familiar names. Ken, how did the
> aprilia turn out?
> Brian
> Aka Grasshopper thanks to Madd Dawg
> Aka Gypsy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of Garth Rodericks
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:51 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List; Asa Jay Laughton; Ken Green
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> 
> Reported as 'fraudulent' to ebay!
> 
> Requests for initial contact outside of ebay ALWAYS indicate it's a
> fraudulent 
> auction using a hijacked ebay account!
> 
> "Real" email? I doubt it. Anyone can create an email account on MSN (or
> Yahoo, 
> Gmail, etc.).
> 
> Might be nice to send this scum an email then run an IP trace to determine
> where 
> it's actually being sent from. Then send over some of our Italian brothers
> to 
> "have a little talk."
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avw0n9b2o9U
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> The person who listed it actually put a contact email in the photo pane:
> 
> singer676 at MSN.com and they'll sell the car to you for a cool $15K.
> 
> Nice when they put their real email address in there huh. :)
> 
> 
> <insert evil overlord laugh here>
> Asa Jay
> 
> Quoting Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/12064
> 8398830
> >0
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:34:31 -0800
> From: J coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Congratulations to SOBill
> To: list list <detomaso at list.realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY131-W5EECFB74334AB274A07A7DF370 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Congratulations to SOBill on being recognized by Team Pantera Racing for his signicant and numerous contributions over the years. As they put it, "For years of unselfish and outstanding personal support , service, and can do attitude toward POCA, Team Pantera Racing, PI, and other Pantera owners world wide." This is the newly christened "SOBill Award". Bill is humbled, but we are awed ! Jim Coyne 
> 
> > From: SOBill at aol.com
> > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:32:32 -0500
> > To: teampantera at yahoo.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TPR Awards now posted to TPR site
> > 
> > I am humbled ..... and that ain't easy to do.
> > 
> > Have fun today,
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:06:52 EST
> From: WLHPANTERA at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Message-ID: <10a46.15e1c2bc.3a145a7c at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> FYI, I contacted the "Real" owner & he is talking with Ebay.
> All is well in PanteraLand. 
> By the way, it has bid up to $4050 with seven bozo bids so far.
> Such a deal :^)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:10:34 -0600
> From: "Brian Ward" <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: "'Garth Rodericks'" <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail
> List'" <detomaso at realbig.com>, "'Asa Jay Laughton'"
> <asajay at asajay.com>, "'Ken Green'" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <000401cb85db$17998460$46cc8d20$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Thanks Garth? Think of it as a pyramid scam. To the very foolish they try to
> retrieve actual cash through western union for item that is not in their
> possession, this part is obvious, but few buy it and never move forward but
> not before giving them their info. Then there are the people who recognize
> the scam and send emails to them with remarks and so on. Even the actual
> owners will send emails to them because they are pissed. With all they
> emails they receive they can easily get any financial information from the
> senders computers and hit bank accounts for small 5-20 dollar transactions
> that go un-noticed for a while. Easy way to make a living right?. They are
> outside of the reach of our laws so we can?t touch them as most are in other
> countries such as Nigeria.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> From: Garth Rodericks [mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:30 PM
> To: Brian Ward; DeTomaso Mail List; Asa Jay Laughton; Ken Green
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> 
> 
> 
> Welcome back Brian! 
> 
> FWIW, I don't waste time or risk my privacy contacting these scammers. 
> 
> Ciao!
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; DeTomaso Mail List
> <detomaso at realbig.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; Ken Green
> <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 1:14:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> 
> This is d?j? vu.... In 2006, and you can go back and look at the archives, I
> wrote a very descriptive post about why not to contact these A$$holes. They
> want your email and your I.P. address!!!!!!!!!!!!! With it they have all the
> information stored on your computer. I just rejoined the list after being
> away for four years and glad to see some familiar names. Ken, how did the
> aprilia turn out?
> Brian
> Aka Grasshopper thanks to Madd Dawg
> Aka Gypsy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of Garth Rodericks
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:51 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List; Asa Jay Laughton; Ken Green
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> 
> Reported as 'fraudulent' to ebay!
> 
> Requests for initial contact outside of ebay ALWAYS indicate it's a
> fraudulent 
> auction using a hijacked ebay account!
> 
> "Real" email? I doubt it. Anyone can create an email account on MSN (or
> Yahoo, 
> Gmail, etc.).
> 
> Might be nice to send this scum an email then run an IP trace to determine
> where 
> it's actually being sent from. Then send over some of our Italian brothers
> to 
> "have a little talk."
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avw0n9b2o9U
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> The person who listed it actually put a contact email in the photo pane:
> 
> singer676 at MSN.com and they'll sell the car to you for a cool $15K.
> 
> Nice when they put their real email address in there huh. :)
> 
> 
> <insert evil overlord laugh here>
> Asa Jay
> 
> Quoting Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/12064
> 8398830
> >0
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:35:48 -0500
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, Asa Jay Laughton
> <asajay at asajay.com>, DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>, Garth
> Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTinGs1uV3XDYDC_sjSpKd4=0MMfYBR0riyswALOD at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> Darn it, My bid was cancelled, I was winning too at only $97,000.
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Garth? Think of it as a pyramid scam. To the very foolish they try
> > to
> > retrieve actual cash through western union for item that is not in their
> > possession, this part is obvious, but few buy it and never move forward but
> > not before giving them their info. Then there are the people who recognize
> > the scam and send emails to them with remarks and so on. Even the actual
> > owners will send emails to them because they are pissed. With all they
> > emails they receive they can easily get any financial information from the
> > senders computers and hit bank accounts for small 5-20 dollar transactions
> > that go un-noticed for a while. Easy way to make a living right?. They are
> > outside of the reach of our laws so we can?t touch them as most are in
> > other
> > countries such as Nigeria.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Garth Rodericks [mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:30 PM
> > To: Brian Ward; DeTomaso Mail List; Asa Jay Laughton; Ken Green
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> >
> >
> >
> > Welcome back Brian!
> >
> > FWIW, I don't waste time or risk my privacy contacting these scammers.
> >
> > Ciao!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> > To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; DeTomaso Mail List
> > <detomaso at realbig.com>; Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; Ken Green
> > <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 1:14:26 PM
> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> >
> > This is d?j? vu.... In 2006, and you can go back and look at the archives,
> > I
> > wrote a very descriptive post about why not to contact these A$$holes.
> > They
> > want your email and your I.P. address!!!!!!!!!!!!! With it they have all
> > the
> > information stored on your computer. I just rejoined the list after being
> > away for four years and glad to see some familiar names. Ken, how did the
> > aprilia turn out?
> > Brian
> > Aka Grasshopper thanks to Madd Dawg
> > Aka Gypsy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Garth Rodericks
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:51 PM
> > To: DeTomaso Mail List; Asa Jay Laughton; Ken Green
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> >
> > Reported as 'fraudulent' to ebay!
> >
> > Requests for initial contact outside of ebay ALWAYS indicate it's a
> > fraudulent
> > auction using a hijacked ebay account!
> >
> > "Real" email? I doubt it. Anyone can create an email account on MSN (or
> > Yahoo,
> > Gmail, etc.).
> >
> > Might be nice to send this scum an email then run an IP trace to determine
> > where
> > it's actually being sent from. Then send over some of our Italian brothers
> > to
> > "have a little talk."
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avw0n9b2o9U
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> >
> > The person who listed it actually put a contact email in the photo pane:
> >
> > singer676 at MSN.com and they'll sell the car to you for a cool $15K.
> >
> > Nice when they put their real email address in there huh. :)
> >
> >
> > <insert evil overlord laugh here>
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Quoting Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > >
> > >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/12064
> > 8398830
> > >0
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
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> michael at michaelshortt.com
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:11:31 -0800
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Crook Listing "Pure Gold" on eBay
> To: detomaso at list.realbig.com
> Message-ID: <4CE355F3.7030105 at asajay.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> It was pulled that last time I looked.
> 
> Brings up an interesting question though. If you report an auction as 
> fraudulent, ebay can take up to 72 hours to respond. That's a long time.
> 
> So which method would get an auction pulled sooner?
> - reporting the auction as fraud, or
> - cranking the price up so high the seller will pull it on their own?
> 
> Personally, I think it's just plain -cool- that we have enough people 
> watching out that auctions like this (with Panteras anyway) don't last long.
> 
> Nice work friends,
> Asa Jay
> :)
> 
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> 
> 
> On 11/16/2010 12:21, Ken Green wrote:
> > Can someone get the auction pulled???
> > 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-1973-Tomaso-Pantera-Cobra-/120648398830
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:24:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Predator Carb
> To: Pantera Web <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <840690.29993.qm at web80404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Question...
> ?
> Checking Craigslist, just killing time I come across a Predator Carb For Sale. I'm not interested in it, but thought I have never heard any discussion about one of these Carbs. Has anybody run one on there Pantera? I went to there web site, of coarse they make it sound like its the best thing since sliced bread? Almost like one size fit all and easy to tune? I know they have been around for some time but you seldom see one in use?
> ?
> Any thoughts good or bad?
> ?
> Curt
> ?
> ?
> ????
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 06:40:47 +0000
> From: peter-kovacs at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Predator Carb
> To: "Curt Hall" <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>, detomaso-bounces at realbig.com,
> "Pantera Web" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1935424133-1289976047-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-901248838- at bda054.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> I liked mine and want it back. Made my car seem 1000 pounds lighter.
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curt Hall <cuvee at sbcglobal.net>
> Sender: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:24:27 
> To: Pantera Web<detomaso at realbig.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Predator Carb
> 
> Question...
> ?
> Checking Craigslist, just killing time I come across a Predator Carb For Sale. I'm not interested in it, but thought I have never heard any discussion about one of these Carbs. Has anybody run one on there Pantera? I went to there web site, of coarse they make it sound like its the best thing since sliced bread? Almost like one size fit all and easy to tune? I know they have been around for some time but you seldom see one in use?
> ?
> Any thoughts good or bad?
> ?
> Curt
> ?
> ?
> ????
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:36:47 -0600
> From: "Brian Ward" <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Paging the "Puppy and Ghandi"
> To: "'Brian Ward'" <brian at trinityarmco.com>, "'Garth Rodericks'"
> <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
> <detomaso at realbig.com>, "'Asa Jay Laughton'" <asajay at asajay.com>,
> "'Ken Green'" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <001701cb862a$3177bbf0$946733d0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Is Mad dawg aka "I thought it was running a little hot" or JAB aka "Ghandi"
> still around or on the list?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:01:05 -0800
> From: "Dan Courtney" <dfcex at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] TPR Award Banquet Photos
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <35B921D7EFB7414691D587BD94C93DA7 at DANSDELLWRKSTN>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Quite an inspiring group.
> By the way, how fast can Panteras do 90 miles on 7 cylinders?
> Sounds like we have a squad leader for the '11 SS Challenge.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> Dan Courtney
> 21 Years of Excellent Representation
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> (858) 551-5456 F
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:59:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Paging the "Puppy and Ghandi"
> To: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
> <detomaso at realbig.com>, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>, Ken
> Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <178386.28568.qm at web58105.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Yeah, they're still around, but MD is playing in the sandbox again building up 
> his race budget. And JB shows up once in a while on the list, but not very often 
> these days.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>
> To: Brian Ward <brian at trinityarmco.com>; Garth Rodericks 
> <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>; DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at realbig.com>; Asa Jay 
> Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 11:36:47 PM
> Subject: Paging the "Puppy and Ghandi"
> 
> Is Mad dawg aka "I thought it was running a little hot" or JAB aka "Ghandi"
> still around or on the list?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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