[DeTomaso] German looking for Pantera

Wed Nov 10 19:49:52 EST 2010

Michael,

I'm not sure what you mean
These are both Panteras so I'm not deriding them.
I'm just saying that a beautiful, running, driving car being sold by a known Pantera dealer is worth WAY more than a "not driven in years, may not start" project car being sold by a "general" dealer who doesn't even know leather from vinyl (the ad says the car has its original leather interior).

Jim

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From: michael at michaelshortt.com <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] German looking for Pantera

We are our own worst enemy and this is why a crappy 308 can sell for more
han a Pantera. Why deride our cars? If he can get that, then how much could
ou or I get?  Michael Shortt.
n Nov 10, 2010 7:33 PM, "Pantdino" <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:

 If this car can be had for $46K there is positively no way the WA car is
orth $35

 http://www.pim.net/4092010DP.html

 Jim

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
 To: detomaso at realbig.com
 Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 10:27 pm
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] German looking for Pantera

 udging from the cars I see advertised in the POCA magazine there is no way
his
 ne is worth $35K.
 Not started or driven in years??? Forget it unless someone has checked out
he
 ngine and transaxle, rebuilt the brakes and clutch systems, etc, etc,
 Jim Oddie

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 rom: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
 o: rathsberg at web.de
 c: msm at portata.com; detomaso at realbig.com
 ent: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 6:20 pm
 ubject: Re: [DeTomaso] German looking for Pantera

 uten tag, Bernd
 've personally reviewed this car, located in a rather eclectic shop in
 rnation, WA, a little town about 30 miles NE of Seattle, WA, on the US
 st coast. Couldn't get much further from Deutschland.
 he car presents quite clean. There does not appear to have been any body
 mage, and what rust is visible appears to be largely on the surface. It
 s been repainted in the original and very rare Aqua green, but, oddly,
 th the rear deck painted black. Said to have sat for many years, the
 int is in very good condition. The original early interior is in
 cellent condition, with the exception of the steering wheel center, and
 e trim inside and out is good as well. The engine bay is fairly clean,
 t totally original with the undercoating, hoses and wires, and looking
 ke it hasn't been cared for for a while.
 was not able to allowed to start the car to see how it ran (it supposedly
 t in a barn not moving for many years before they found it), so I cannot
 test to mechanical condition of either the engine or ZF transmission. The
 lever seemed to move smoothly enough in the gate. This inspection was in
 ne of this year, and recent news of those who have stopped to see the car
 that they still have not tried to start it. This could be confirmed by
 ntacting the seller directly.
 f there are no mechanical issues, this would be a very nice car to show or
 ive once attention was paid to all the usual things that dry out over
 me, and a freshening of the fluids, brakes and cooling system.
 he shop is called Vintage Motors, on line at www.giocars.com, and can be
 ached by telephone at 425-333-5600. The owner's name is Jim Giordano.
 ve spoken to him a couple of times, and he seems like a pretty good
 rson.
 believe other have replied, including Chuck Melton, who has a link to a
 mber of photos which you may not have seen.
 lease contact me directly if you wish.
 uf Viedersehen
 ke Thomas
 L #6328
 ce Pres., Panteras Northwest
 ce Pres., Pantera Owner's Club of America
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 om: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
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 nt: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:28 PM
 : detomaso at realbig.com
 : rathsberg at web.de
 bject: [DeTomaso] German looking for Pantera
 ust the messenger ...
 ello from Germany - I hope you can help me!
 have been offered a 1971 Pantera from a company in England.
 ter some research I found the car being offered by a U.S. based vintage
 r dealer.
 he car is said to be in very good shape (of course!) having a total
ileage
 only 20,700 miles.
 e color is Green Aqua (#V306 ) and they claim that the car had only one
 ner from new.
 N THPNLU02206 Data tag info: Engine #: 02206 LH Rear Tag 874 01193
 o you know this car? I am very thankful for any message related to the
ar!
 have no idea if it is accident free and I got no eMail reply so far
 swering my questions.
 have learned that it can be extremely helpful to contact a vintage car
 ub to find out about details and history of cars being offered by dealers.
 am very ambitious to find a good Pantera for quite a while now, the offers
 re in Germany are either of poor quality or far too expensive.
 f you have any information, please send me an eMail to: rathsberg at web.deor
 can call you if you let me know your phone number.
 hank you very much indeed and best regards from Germany!
 rnd Dimbath
 hlossweg 25
 080 Rathsberg
 RMANY
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