[DeTomaso] Tire clearance Problem

[Don Franck]

The car has been aligned.  The pictures are drivers side and passengers
side.  Not before an after.  If the car would stay where it is after being
jacked up, the issue would be solved (barring a MAJOR pothole).  THe car
does not even look jacked up when it is lowered from the jack.

However.  It is obvious that the flares are different from side to side.  I
have a damaged from spoiler so maybe while I get that fixed, I should look
at a little modificatino for clearance.

???
Don

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Is the photo a 'before and after' or a 'drivers vs. passenger' with the new
> tires?
>
> unfortunately the shock adjustment is not going to solve your problem. Have
> you checked rear wheel alignment i.e. toe, just to be sure there is noting
> untoward happening at the chassis mountings?
>
> Julian
>
> > From: detomasoregistry at gmail.com
> > To: panteradon at gmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:06:09 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire clearance Problem
>
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > (I'll reiterate what you have said, then add my .02)
> >
> > I hate to say this but this is a perfect example of the fact that the
> stated tire size
> > is 'approximate'. Your 'before' photo (right side) shows you started with
> a close fit.
> >
> > You went from a Pirelli 345/35 (P7) to a Pirelli 345/35 (P-Zero). Same
> manufacturer, and
> > same size, yet the overall size is slightly larger now, and thus the
> clearance issue.
> >
> > >From what I can see, the new tire sticks out (further from the
> centerline of the car),
> > and its over-all height is slightly larger too.
> >
> > You have adjustable height shocks & springs, and you have already raised
> your ride height
> > in an attempt to make room to no avail.
> >
> > >From the photo, it would seem that where the fender is closest, is in
> line with the center
> > of the tire/wheel, meaning that you would have to really change right
> height to gain
> > clearance. I don't think this will be the best option.
> >
> > Do they (Pirelli) make a smaller tire? 315 perhaps? Would this size cause
> you any
> > 'aesthetic' problems?
> >
> > Note that the sidewall height is a % (or ratio) or the tread width.
> 345/35 means
> > (approximately) 345mm wide, and 35% of 345mm tall sidewall. Thus a 315mm
> wide tire would
> > be slightly smaller in over-all height. As your new tire sticks out past
> the fender flare
> > a slightly narrower tire would still fill the flare, but you would gain
> clearance.
> >
> > Many people believe that the Pantera will actually handle better with a
> 315, or a tire
> > slightly narrower than the max that we can get. I think people like to go
> with the widest
> > tire they can get, more for looks than maximum performance. If we are
> talking a "Bell"
> > curve, I suspect that the tires wider than 315 or so are on the right
> side of the peak of
> > the bell (and moving away from the optimal point,) in terms of traction
> and handling
> > optimization. I've driven 345s, 335s, and 315s on the same car, same
> suspension, and
> > (seat of the pants comparison - ONLY) I'd estimate that the 315's handled
> the best.
> >
> > Chuck Melton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just put new tires on my GT5 Clone. They are 345/35 P Zeroes. They
> > replace 345/35 P7's. I hade no clearance issue with the older tires. The
> > new tires rub on the drivers side.
> >
> > I added adjustable shocks thinking I could lift the car up a bit and get
> the
> > clearance. I have the drivers side cranked almost all the way up and the
> > passengers side up about half way from the starting point.
> >
> > Here is a pick of the clearance issue:
> > http://www.expressionsfinechocolate.com/Don/Pantera%20Tires.jpg
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > Adjust the passenger side shock all the way up?
> >
> > Are there any other tire choices?
> >
> > Get some body work done?
> > ??????
> >
> > --
> > Don
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-- 
Don