[DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment

Thu May 20 21:03:33 EDT 2010

I have the alingment instructions from johnny Woods which should be the
same. (in essence)
Boyd

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM, STEVEN BLUM <steveblum2 at msn.com> wrote:

>
> The A arm modification was done by Pat Michals and supposedly installed per
> his instructions. Somehow I think either the shop did not understand his
> instructions or he gave them the wrong instructions. I think it waqs the
> shop but cannot be sure as hey never gave me his instructions when I picked
> up the car. They said they were misplaced. Are you sure that the shims on
> both sides are wrong? I can uderstand the right side but if I move the
> drivers side to the front won't the whell be to far back?
>
> Steven Blum
> P.O. Box 81
> Shoreham, N.Y. 11786
> H (631) 744-6118
> C (631) 235-1905
>
>
>
>
> > From: guson at home.se
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 23:59:55 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment
> >
> > A close-up pic of the A-arms in the wheel well would be nice to see. With
> > the wheel removed that is.
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> > Sent: den 20 maj 2010 22:59
> > To: steveblum2 at msn.com; mikeldrew at aol.com; De Tomaso List
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment
> >
> >
> > I see you have the modified upper a-arms to improve your caster. To take
> > advantge of that the ball joint (and wheel) should be moved rearwards by
> > ideally locating all the shims in front of the ball joint. Once done, get
> > the shop to fine tune using a caster gauge to get the two sides equal by
> > varying shims.
> >
> >
> >
> > What I don't understand at present is the way you currently have the
> shims
> > would be about right for stock caster, but a stock car would not have the
> > wheel that far forward in the fender. Do you know who undertook the
> > modification to the a-arms?
> >
> >
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > From: steveblum2 at msn.com
> > To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; mikeldrew at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:16:30 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> > Attached are photos of both sides. The shims on both sides are to the
> rear
> > so that looks good. When I get it on the alignment rack i need to compare
> > wheelbase measurements, it looks like I need to move some right side
> shims.
> >
> > Steven Blum
> > P.O. Box 81
> > Shoreham, N.Y. 11786
> > H (631) 744-6118
> > C (631) 235-1905
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: julian_kift at hotmail.com
> > To: mikeldrew at aol.com; steveblum2 at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:15:55 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> > That is a lot of forward shift, more than one would imagine possible
> through
> > the bushing orientation or having the ball joint shims on the wrong side,
> or
> > both. This might be a dumb question, but were both sides apart at the
> same
> > time, is there any chance that they got the a-arm sides or orientation
> mixed
> > up? e.g. an upside down upper a-arm would have significant forward shift
> of
> > the upper ball joint.
> >
> > Can you take a photo of the suspension arms with the wheel removed?
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> > > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:34:58 -0400
> > > To: steveblum2 at msn.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] machine ball joint to modify alingment
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/20/10 8 22 49, steveblum2 at msn.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I recently found what I suspect is a problem with the front end.
> > > > Aparently when I had the suspension bushings changed the new ones
> were
> > installed
> > > > wrong causing an alignment problem. My question is, how much of a
> > project is
> > > > it to disassemble the front end, correct the busing and reassemble
> the
> > > > front end? Is this a job only for an experienced mechanic or someone
> > with
> > > > mechanical skills but limited experience can handle? What special
> tools
> > are
> > > > required?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Another point--when your front end was reassembled, all the shims etc.
> > > should have gone towards the front side of the upper ball joint,
> pushing
> > it
> > > relatively rearwards. It's possible that they were put towards the back
> > side,
> > > which would totally jack up your alignment and contribute to the
> problem
> > > you're having.
> > >
> > > You should post the photo you sent me so people can see what we're
> talking
> > > about. Or better yet, I will:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/22olpcz
> > >
> > > Mike
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