[DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms

Sun May 16 14:25:03 EDT 2010

Goran

And your personal philosophy is greatly appreciated by all the Pantera
community.  We all benefit from the work that you do.

Thanks 

Steve

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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of hemipanter at hemipanter.se
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:16 PM
To: Mark Nygaard
Cc: DetomasoList
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms

I answer for myself here!
I do not think that only disparaged the vendors, taking part in their
defense and appreciate them. Of course, some become disillusioned with the
supplies, but there are probably much to the fact that things costs money,
much more than what you pay. I know the work that lies behind the production
and I this usually keep me from selling things since I can not get paid for
the time I spend. And IF I ask to be paid for the time, so I get blamed for
making proffit on my own work, then it is better to stay out.

I understand "Flattery" opinion", but on the other hand, I am not myself
concerned becouse If I can not make it for a living, so can those who copy
me not live by it. I think some of this is about the prestige of who
actually invented what has been manufactured.

I have been working with Panteras for 35 years, and NEVER had a good
buissnies out from it. The last 15 years I have work on my own car becouse I
love it, and I am happy to share what I do with other Pantera people,
regardless of "Flattery" since all are such good friends.

But as said, that my personal situation.

Goran

> This is slightly off topic but I think it is still relevant.  I don't 
> understand why there is so much animosity towards any of the vendors 
> ever speaking up on the forum.  If it weren't for the various vendors 
> out there none of us would be driving our cars and yet it seems like 
> collectively they are treated like dirt.  If any one of them speaks up on
a topic many
> times, they are chastised and accused of promoting themselves.   Why
> shouldn't they promote themselves, this is how they make their living.  
> If a vendor in our midst stands behind the work they do, then I say we 
> give them the respect they deserve.  How many people on this list have 
> put significant capital into supplying parts or services?
>
> There is a lot of good knowledge from various people on the list. 
> However, not all of these people work on various Pantera's on a daily 
> basis.  Why not welcome the thoughts, experiences, and opinions from 
> the people that deal with the cars day in and day out?  I would think 
> the forum would benefit from their expertise and if they are trying to 
> sell you something, guess what, you don't have to buy it.
>
> Lastly, someone made the quote "Imitation is the sincerest form of
> flattery".   I think all of us would agree with that statement, but when
> it comes to your business or livelihood; who wants that kind of 
> flattery? Those of you that own or have owned a business know exactly 
> what I mean.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mark
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On 
> Behalf Of michael at michaelshortt.com [michaelsavga at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:35 AM
> To: Barry Seib
> Cc: Drew, Mike; DetomasoList
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms
>
> I didn't understand the animosity in the reply, is there a history 
> there we don't know about.
>
> Regardless, I value Mike Drew's observations and comments, many have 
> been helpful
>
> since I acquired my Pantera.  You can't please everybody, ask my 
> ex-wife.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Barry Seib <oldwheel at mts.net> wrote:
>
>> I tend to agree.
>> Mike Drew has been more helpful to me with correct, factual 
>> information than any other single person in the Pantera game over the 
>> last ten years on this
>> forum.
>>
>> In spite of this huge cache of accurate, factual detail knowlege on 
>> Panteras, he has has never come across as promoting  himself or 
>> expecting reverence from his followers. He is always approachable and 
>> willing to admit
>> a mistake if he makes an error. Unfortunately, this can't be said for
>> everyone on the list.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Lynn Wall cars at wt-inc.com
>> Wed May 12 18:48:18 CDT 2010
>>
>> Yea, Pats response is kind of jerky. I would happily subscribe to 
>> mikedrew.com long before I subscribed to patmichal.com.  One is 
>> helpful and does his best to educate others and is ALWAYS helpful, 
>> the other is arrogant
>> and unnecessarily mean spirited.
>> Lynn
>>
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