[DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms

[Lynn Wall]

Yea, Pats response is kind of jerky. I would happily subscribe to
mikedrew.com long before I subscribed to patmichal.com.  One is helpful and
does his best to educate others and is ALWAYS helpful, the other is arrogant
and unnecessarily mean spirited.
Lynn 

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of boyd casey
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:25 PM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: mikeldrew at aol.com; De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms

I am not a machinist, mechanic or diplomat. That being said the description
that Pat Mical gave of the process he uses to perform the modification
sounds incredibly similar to the process outlined in the PI forum. It may
not be a verbatim but it appears to me to be  essentially identical.
 " The arms have to taken apart, hydraulically reformed, machined and
> put into a special jig that I designed
>  then welded back together. ."
>
I am relatively confident that Pat didn't fabricate the jig Johnny uses but
if Johnny replicated the jig that Pat designed one might actually be able to
say that Johnny "learned how to do it from Pat" even if Pat didn't
voluntarily teach him. I have heard many things about Johnny Wood and his
work all of them positive. I have also heard many things about Pat . Let me
leave it at this, every one likes his work, but I can't say the same about
him personally.
Boyd

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Firstly my apologies if this discussion stirred up some controversy, that
> was not my intent.
>
>
>
> I have personally done the front a-arm mod and IMO it is a relatively
> simple mod to do, I even fabricated my own jig. All the mod takes is a
> simple grinding of the original tack weld to separate the one arm which is
> then reshaped and the two halves welded back together. There is no need to
> cut arms into pieces and Johnny is not doing so as you can see in reading
> the story he did for the PI forum.
>
> http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/9830021654
>
>
>
> His is the methodology I followed and I'm very pleased with the results,
it
> transformed the driving experience of my GT5.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Julian
>
>
> > From: pmical at patsauto.com
> > To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at realbig.com; mikeldrew at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms
> > Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:13:46 -0400
> >
> > Hi All;
> > Let's get the story straight. I never taught anyone how to do the mods
> nor
> > have I been doing work for Johnny. Johnny Woods has been trying to copy
> my
> > mods on the control arms. He is cutting them in a lot of pieces and
> that's
> > wrong. The arms have to taken apart, hydraulically reformed, machined
and
> > put into a special jig that I designed (not free handed as Johnny
appears
> to
> > be doing), then welded back together. Thanks to Mike's advice, you get
> what
> > you pay for. From what I see this is not Realbig.com ,but Mike Drew.com.
> >
> > Respectfully
> > Pat
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mikeldrew at aol.com>
> > To: <julian_kift at hotmail.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Adjustable Rear upper a-arms
> >
> >
> > > Julian wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I always thought Pat was doing the Johnny Woods mod, not vice
> > > versa......
> > >
> > >>>>No, Pat taught Johnny how to do it....
> > >
> > > Mike
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