[DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
Dave Londry
davel at emspace.com
Tue May 11 01:52:00 EDT 2010
Hey there's a thought.
Perhaps
- the cheap ones are made in China, drop-shipped to a distribution
center and then to customers.
- better ones are made in China, but screened by an acceptance test at
MSD before they go to customers.
- good ones are built by MSD with a quality-controlled vendor chain.
If we knew what the acceptance test was .............?
dave
pantdino at aol.com wrote:
> This is a valid point.
> So perhaps if one antes up for the good stuff the failure rate would drop to near zero, where it should be.
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> Jim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: hoppe1 at cox.net; tipo874 at comcast.net; pantdino at aol.com; charlesmccall at gmail.com; cengles at cox.net
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 4:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
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> SD makes a selection of analog and digital ignition boxes with varying duty
> ycle and corresponding price tag, just go to www.msdignition.com and see the
> rray of offerings. There is a 6ALN, the 'N' designating Nascar duty and
> rofessional race series available (black MSD boxes) like the 6HVC. Of course we
> ll know the low end stuff produced for the masses isn't going through the same
> igor of testing as the race stuff.
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> You can buy two of the basic analog 'disposable' 6AL's for the price of one more
> obust digital version or a race box, so what do most Pantera owners do?
>
> Julian
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> Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:44:02 -0700
> From: hoppe1 at cox.net
> To: tipo874 at comcast.net; pantdino at aol.com; charlesmccall at gmail.com;
> engles at cox.net
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
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> MSD makes race boxes.
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> I have a dual system that I bought. It came out of Dale Earnhardt Jr car.
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> I don't remember what it is called. I am not at home. It has two Black boxes
> ith two coils etc.
>
> Rich
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> ---- Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > All of that is true, but a pro-team would not be likely to run an inferior
> > product jeapordizing their chances of winning for sponsor money.
> >
> > At least that's what I'd think, but I imagine that the world of pro-stock
> > sponsorship moves a lot of money and there may be some surprising things
> > happening?
> >
> > Charles McCall
> > 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> > "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
> > http://www.poca.com/index.php/gallery/?g2_itemId=2323
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
> > nombre de Dan Mixon
> > Enviado el: lunes, 10 de mayo de 2010 16:54
> > Para: cengles at cox.net; pantdino at aol.com
> > CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
> >
> > The race teams get their parts free (and they not off the shelf items from
> > Summit). And they only have to last 500 miles. The race teams put the
> > product decals on the car and get sponsor money. The bigger the decal, the
> > more sponsor money. Depending on how they finish, they can additionally win
> > contingency money.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> > Behalf Of cengles at cox.net
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 09:21
> > To: pantdino at aol.com
> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
> >
> >
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > You make a very good point, sir.
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> > ---- pantdino at aol.com wrote:
> > >You are assuming the NASCAR boys use the same product sold to the public.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > To: pantdino at aol.com; cengles at cox.net; tonydigi at optonline.net; Jim Gray
> > <grayjim at att.net>
> > Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> > Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 6:13 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
> >
> > It seems like the NASCAR guys would use a better product if it was out
> > there. The price would not be an issue unless it was really high. I'm not
> > sure what the tradeoffs are, but I assume they are pretty sure that two
> > boxes will not both fail. Ken--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
> > wrote:From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box
> > failure? ???????To: pantdino at aol.com, cengles at cox.net,
> > tonydigi at optonline.netCc: detomaso at realbig.comDate: Sunday, May 9, 2010,
> > 1:37 PMSoooo...Jim, what would you buy for longevity? I've had bad
> > experience withMallory.Jim Gray-----Original Message-----From:
> > detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] OnBehalf
> > Of pantdino at aol.comSent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:03 PMTo: cengles at cox.net;
> > tonydigi at optonline.netCc: detomaso at realbig.comSubject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD
> > Box failure? ???????Shipping a dead device shows they have no quality
> > control whatsoever-- theconsumer is the quality control inspector they don't
> > want to bother withJapanese cars go 260,000 miles and 15 years with no
> > ignition systemproblems. (personal experience)Even my 1978 Alfa Romeo went
> > 10 years or so without ign probs. Does thatmean Italian electrics are world
> > class?I can't figure out why people buy MSD boxes. A classic study in
> > goodmarketing.Jim Oddie-----Original Message-----From: Charles Engles
> > <cengles at cox.net>To: 'Tony DiGiovanna' <tonydigi at optonline.net>Cc:
> > detomaso at realbig.comSent: Sun, May 9, 2010 11:16 amSubject: Re: [DeTomaso]
> > MSD Box failure? ???????Dear Tony, I have full MSD systems on
> > both of my Panteras. All in all Iuspect that I have at least a total of
> > twelve trouble free years of useetween the two of them. I even
> > stressed one system by welding on the car withoutomplete proper
> > disconnection. That boo-boo was about five years ago and Iave had no
> > problems with it. I have had two MSD problems. One: a brand
> > new 6-AL box wasead on delivery from Summit. Two: one distributor cap
> > seemed to developome sort of corrosion schmutz that required replacing the
> > cap. FWIW, iteems that MSD had more than one problem with that and it was
> > some sort ofanufacturing problem, which they did not make good on and
> > customers had toony up for new caps. Sigh. Finally, the two
> > Panteras and their MSD ignition systems haveach done at least four thousand
> > miles of long distance trips without anyssues over the last several
> > years. I have heard the horror stories too,ut mine have served well.
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles----Original Message-----rom:
> > detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] Onehalf
> > Of Tony DiGiovannaent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:46 AMo: 'DeTomaso
> > Forum'ubject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????Over the years, I've
> > seen so many posts here regarding MSD Box Failure thatdon't think I'm ever
> > going to buy one. Anybody feel the up-side is wortht?-----Original
> > Message-----rom: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] Onehalf Of
> > michael at michaelshortt.coment: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:14 PMo: DeTomaso
> > Forumubject: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????Has anyone experienced a MSD
> > failure while cruising on the road Car just backfired and cut off, will not
> > restart, turns over but noire. I think the MSD box may have been splashed
> > several hours earlier whenar was washed, but it ran fine for 30 min after
> > that. Waiting on tow truckow. Michael
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