[DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????

hoppe1 at cox.net hoppe1 at cox.net
Mon May 10 12:44:02 EDT 2010


MSD makes race boxes.

I have a dual system that I bought.  It came out of Dale Earnhardt Jr car.

I don't remember what it is called.  I am not at home.  It has two Black boxes with  two coils etc.

Rich 

---- Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote: 
> All of that is true, but a pro-team would not be likely to run an inferior
> product jeapordizing their chances of winning for sponsor money. 
> 
> At least that's what I'd think, but I imagine that the world of pro-stock
> sponsorship moves a lot of money and there may be some surprising things
> happening?
> 
> Charles McCall
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> "Raising Pantera Awareness Across Europe"
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> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
> nombre de Dan Mixon
> Enviado el: lunes, 10 de mayo de 2010 16:54
> Para: cengles at cox.net; pantdino at aol.com
> CC: detomaso at realbig.com
> Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
> 
> The race teams get their parts free (and they not off the shelf items from
> Summit). And they only have to last 500 miles. The race teams put the
> product decals on the car and get sponsor money. The bigger the decal, the
> more sponsor money. Depending on how they finish, they can additionally win
> contingency money.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of cengles at cox.net
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 09:21
> To: pantdino at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
> 
> 
> Dear Jim,
> 
> You make a very good point, sir.
> 
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> ---- pantdino at aol.com wrote:
> >You are assuming the NASCAR boys use the same product sold to the public. 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: pantdino at aol.com; cengles at cox.net; tonydigi at optonline.net; Jim Gray
> <grayjim at att.net>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 6:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????
> 
> It seems like the NASCAR guys would use a better product if it was out
> there.  The price would not be an issue unless it was really high.  I'm not
> sure what the tradeoffs are, but I assume they are pretty sure that two
> boxes will not both fail. Ken--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
> wrote:From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box
> failure? ???????To: pantdino at aol.com, cengles at cox.net,
> tonydigi at optonline.netCc: detomaso at realbig.comDate: Sunday, May 9, 2010,
> 1:37 PMSoooo...Jim, what would you buy for longevity?  I've had bad
> experience withMallory.Jim Gray-----Original Message-----From:
> detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] OnBehalf
> Of pantdino at aol.comSent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:03 PMTo: cengles at cox.net;
> tonydigi at optonline.netCc: detomaso at realbig.comSubject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD
> Box failure? ???????Shipping a dead device shows they have no quality
> control whatsoever-- theconsumer is the quality control inspector they don't
> want to bother withJapanese cars go 260,000 miles and 15 years with no
> ignition systemproblems. (personal experience)Even my 1978 Alfa Romeo went
> 10 years or so without ign probs.  Does thatmean Italian electrics are world
> class?I can't figure out why people buy MSD boxes. A classic study in
> goodmarketing.Jim Oddie-----Original Message-----From: Charles Engles
> <cengles at cox.net>To: 'Tony DiGiovanna' <tonydigi at optonline.net>Cc:
> detomaso at realbig.comSent: Sun, May 9, 2010 11:16 amSubject: Re: [DeTomaso]
> MSD Box failure? ???????Dear Tony,             I have full MSD systems on
> both of my Panteras.   All in all Iuspect that I have at least a total of 
> twelve trouble free years of useetween the two of them.             I  even
> stressed one system by welding on the car withoutomplete proper
> disconnection.  That boo-boo was about five years ago and Iave had no
> problems with it.             I have had two MSD problems.   One: a brand
> new 6-AL box wasead on delivery from Summit.    Two: one distributor cap
> seemed to developome sort of corrosion schmutz that required replacing the
> cap.   FWIW, iteems that MSD had more than one problem with that and it was
> some sort ofanufacturing problem, which they did not make good on and
> customers had toony up for new caps.  Sigh.             Finally, the two
> Panteras and their MSD ignition systems haveach done at least four thousand
> miles of long distance trips without anyssues over the last several
> years.   I have heard the horror stories too,ut mine have served well.     
>               Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles----Original Message-----rom:
> detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] Onehalf
> Of Tony DiGiovannaent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:46 AMo: 'DeTomaso
> Forum'ubject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????Over the years, I've
> seen so many posts here regarding MSD Box Failure thatdon't think I'm ever
> going to buy one.  Anybody feel the up-side is wortht?-----Original
> Message-----rom: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] Onehalf Of
> michael at michaelshortt.coment: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:14 PMo: DeTomaso
> Forumubject: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????Has anyone experienced a MSD
> failure while cruising on the road  Car just backfired and cut off, will not
> restart,  turns over but noire.  I think the MSD box may have been splashed
> several hours earlier whenar was washed, but it ran fine for 30 min after
> that.  Waiting on tow truckow. Michael
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