[DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????

Dan Mixon tipo874 at comcast.net
Mon May 10 10:54:07 EDT 2010


The race teams get their parts free (and they not off the shelf items from
Summit). And they only have to last 500 miles. The race teams put the
product decals on the car and get sponsor money. The bigger the decal, the
more sponsor money. Depending on how they finish, they can additionally win
contingency money.

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of cengles at cox.net
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 09:21
To: pantdino at aol.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????


Dear Jim,

You make a very good point, sir.

Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
---- pantdino at aol.com wrote:
>You are assuming the NASCAR boys use the same product sold to the public. 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: pantdino at aol.com; cengles at cox.net; tonydigi at optonline.net; Jim Gray
<grayjim at att.net>
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????

It seems like the NASCAR guys would use a better product if it was out
there.  The price would not be an issue unless it was really high.  I'm not
sure what the tradeoffs are, but I assume they are pretty sure that two
boxes will not both fail. Ken--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
wrote:From: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box
failure? ???????To: pantdino at aol.com, cengles at cox.net,
tonydigi at optonline.netCc: detomaso at realbig.comDate: Sunday, May 9, 2010,
1:37 PMSoooo...Jim, what would you buy for longevity?  I've had bad
experience withMallory.Jim Gray-----Original Message-----From:
detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] OnBehalf
Of pantdino at aol.comSent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:03 PMTo: cengles at cox.net;
tonydigi at optonline.netCc: detomaso at realbig.comSubject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD
Box failure? ???????Shipping a dead device shows they have no quality
control whatsoever-- theconsumer is the quality control inspector they don't
want to bother withJapanese cars go 260,000 miles and 15 years with no
ignition systemproblems. (personal experience)Even my 1978 Alfa Romeo went
10 years or so without ign probs.  Does thatmean Italian electrics are world
class?I can't figure out why people buy MSD boxes. A classic study in
goodmarketing.Jim Oddie-----Original Message-----From: Charles Engles
<cengles at cox.net>To: 'Tony DiGiovanna' <tonydigi at optonline.net>Cc:
detomaso at realbig.comSent: Sun, May 9, 2010 11:16 amSubject: Re: [DeTomaso]
MSD Box failure? ???????Dear Tony,             I have full MSD systems on
both of my Panteras.   All in all Iuspect that I have at least a total of 
twelve trouble free years of useetween the two of them.             I  even
stressed one system by welding on the car withoutomplete proper
disconnection.  That boo-boo was about five years ago and Iave had no
problems with it.             I have had two MSD problems.   One: a brand
new 6-AL box wasead on delivery from Summit.    Two: one distributor cap
seemed to developome sort of corrosion schmutz that required replacing the
cap.   FWIW, iteems that MSD had more than one problem with that and it was
some sort ofanufacturing problem, which they did not make good on and
customers had toony up for new caps.  Sigh.             Finally, the two
Panteras and their MSD ignition systems haveach done at least four thousand
miles of long distance trips without anyssues over the last several
years.   I have heard the horror stories too,ut mine have served well.     
              Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles----Original Message-----rom:
detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] Onehalf
Of Tony DiGiovannaent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:46 AMo: 'DeTomaso
Forum'ubject: Re: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????Over the years, I've
seen so many posts here regarding MSD Box Failure thatdon't think I'm ever
going to buy one.  Anybody feel the up-side is wortht?-----Original
Message-----rom: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] Onehalf Of
michael at michaelshortt.coment: Saturday, May 08, 2010 5:14 PMo: DeTomaso
Forumubject: [DeTomaso] MSD Box failure? ???????Has anyone experienced a MSD
failure while cruising on the road  Car just backfired and cut off, will not
restart,  turns over but noire.  I think the MSD box may have been splashed
several hours earlier whenar was washed, but it ran fine for 30 min after
that.  Waiting on tow truckow. Michael
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