[DeTomaso] 69 vs. 79 Mustang (Was Re: Flying a P-51 Mustang - NPC)

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Mon May 3 23:08:33 EDT 2010


Thank you... you've restored my faith in humanity.  (I also agree on 
your sentiment about the 1979)

Asa Jay
1971 Mach I, last of the great Machs.

Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 5/3/2010 7:30 PM, gow2 at rc-tech.net wrote:
> LOL
>
> Yes I meant 1969....But then again the 79 Mustang was the downfall of the
> car industry!
>
>
>
>    
>> Please, for the sake of sanity, tell me you meant a 1969 Mustang...
>> Sixty-nine, not seventy-nine.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> &   Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.asajay.com   ***   http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/3/2010 7:17 PM, gow2 at rc-tech.net wrote:
>>      
>>> Cars, planes, the first 100 years of transportation. It is why a model
>>> "T", a 1955 Chevy, a 1979 Mustang, a Stearman Biplane, a DC-3, all a
>>> real
>>> marker for our development as our society. The originals!
>>>
>>> New Mustangs, New Camero's, etc. Nice cars but just cars.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> My uncle, once again, flew DC-3s in low-level recon in the valleys of
>>>> Vietnam during that little skirmish.  Seems I remember him telling me
>>>> he
>>>> had
>>>> a few thousand hours in DC-3s.  Don't recall the military designation.'
>>>>
>>>> Mike Thomas
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>>> [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of gow2 at rc-tech.net
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:52 PM
>>>> To: Kirby Schrader
>>>> Cc: Peter Menyhart; detomaso at realbig.com; eb20erik at yahoo.com; Mad Dog
>>>> Antenucci; john bentley
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Flying a P-51 Mustang - NPC
>>>>
>>>> One of the guys flying the DC-3 I was doing the run up one had an
>>>> engine
>>>> failure flying to Mexico. He had a load of chickens. They took a
>>>> shortcut
>>>> and flew over the ocean instead of staying over land. Right in the
>>>> middle
>>>> of
>>>> the ocean they puked an engine. My buddy coming from behind in a MU-2.
>>>> As the DC-3 loosing altitude over the ocean they started throwing out
>>>> tools,
>>>> oil, and anything they could get their hands on. They decided if they
>>>> could
>>>> not hold it at a 1000 feet the chickens were going out. They arrested
>>>> the
>>>> descent at 1400 and made it in.
>>>>
>>>> My buddy in the MU2 caught up and escorted them in. The escort was a
>>>> circling escort. He could not fly that slow.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Ah, yes.... the DC-3. Had a bad experience on one of those in the
>>>>> Sudan in 1980. Right engine blew up and caught on fire during take
>>>>> off.
>>>>> Not one of my favorite 10 minutes or so... the old saying about your
>>>>> life passing in front of you? True.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, there is a B-17, a B-25 and such in Galveston. Not cheap
>>>>> either, but cool.
>>>>> It flies over my house every now and then. Very impressive.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lsfm.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW,
>>>>> Kirby
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 2:43 PM, gow2 at rc-tech.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> I have been able to do an engine run up on a DC-3 and have been up in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> T-6 a couple times. I was doing loops, rolls 1/2 cubin 8's. The guy I
>>>>>> was flying with does airshows. I was doing the rolls to the left but
>>>>>> calling the maneuvers. I said now I'll do a roll to the right. "The
>>>>>> guys said, lets not. I am an airshow pilot, not an aerobatic pilot. I
>>>>>> prefer rolls to the left".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More stories I can't write here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best I can do is build and fly models of them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/per/trailer/load.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.rc-tech.net/per/gear/firstb.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> If you are a pilot or just love old WWII war birds you might
>>>>>>> appreciate this touring group of old WWII war birds. See the site
>>>>>>> address below for details of when it is going to be in a city near
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry Kelsey who many of you know from his trips to Vegas or
>>>>>>> Monterey for the old run rallys or in Texas, Nevada, or Nebrasaka
>>>>>>> for the open road races got into the back seat of a P-51 Saturday
>>>>>>> out of John Wayne Airport.
>>>>>>> Not too many WWII pilots still around today and we met several of
>>>>>>> them Saturday who were pretty thrilled to see some of the same
>>>>>>> planes they had also flown or crewed  in WWII.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pilot let Larry take the stick after a few minutes to fly it for a
>>>>>>> few minutes and even do some barrel roles, etc and Larry all most
>>>>>>> floated out of that old  Mustang after it landed about 45 minutes
>>>>>>> later he definately was a happy new 'young' man.  If you ever wanted
>>>>>>> to take a ride in a
>>>>>>> B-17 'Flying Fortress", or the B24 Liberater or FLY a P-51 here's
>>>>>>> your opportunity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not a cheap ride but if its on your bucket list you need to do
>>>>>>> it....I saw a 70+ year old tired old friend get into that cockpit
>>>>>>> but an hour later saw a young man about 40 years younger climb out
>>>>>>> of that old war bird and slide across the wing on his ass like he
>>>>>>> had been doing it for 60 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an aside one of the veteran B-17 pilots was there with his
>>>>>>> daugther waiting to take it up. Once airport they let the veteran
>>>>>>> ride co-pilot....I heard he felt 20 years old again which was hold
>>>>>>> he was when he first flew a B-17!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> amazing weekend
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mad Dawg Antenucci
>>>>>>> Team Pantera Racing
>>>>>>> "If you're not on the edge you're taking up space"
>>>>>>> www.teampanteraracing.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.collingsfoundation.org/ma_p51mustang.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry Kelsey
>>>>>>> Airports Development Group
>>>>>>> Sr. Construction Manager - Aviation
>>>>>>> D 424.646.7516
>>>>>>> lkelsey at lawa.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AECOM
>>>>>>> 7301World Way West
>>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA 90045
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